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  1. English Rebel

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    #1 English Rebel, Aug 7, 2014
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    Today while out driving and after taking a left hand curve the suspension warning light came on and stayed on. After a while I stopped at a grocery store and when I came out and started the car, the light was not on any more. Any ideas as to why it would suddenly come on but then reset itself?
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  2. vrsurgeon

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    Mine did that a few times over the past month.

    It's going to be in one of two places, one of three accelleration sensors or the shocks.

    Could just be a valve in the shock sticking. If you can get it scanned with an SD2 it'll tell you the cause.
     
  3. Tally Ho

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    My F430 had an intermittent warning when I first bought it. It is now on all of the time. The SD download came up with code C1201 - left hand front coil shock absorber. I have not replaced the shock yet as I am still troubleshooting and the car rides and handles just fine.
     
  4. English Rebel

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    So even though the light is out it will retain the fault. My car had a lateral and vertical sensor replaced about 5 years ago. I guess the third sensor is the horizontal one? That same light came on when I picked the car up after having the rear main oil seal replaced recently. I was told by the service guy that it was because it was up on the lift with all four wheels at full extension but I think it was a low voltage on the battery as the low grip light also came on by itself -- Ferrari electrical gremlins at large. I don't think it was the battery this time as it's always on the tender.
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  5. vrsurgeon

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    Provided you don't turn off the power it will retain the fault. It could be one of the sensors "going" I imagine... I'm not sure how long they last..

    But could also be a simple valve in the shock that is sticking or stuck and then registered the fault.. but then unstuck itself. The stooopid shocks have a lifetime as well. If it was my front right I wouldn't be surprised. We'll see. I'm going to take it to Karl in the next week or so.
     
  6. English Rebel

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    If I'm in Greensboro any time soon I may drop by FCI and have them put the portable SD2 on and see what the fault was. Should cost a whole lot for the diagnosis.
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  7. tazandjan

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    Also possible it is a shock absorber actuator and that may be just a connector problem. For Bill, there are no coils in the shock, but there are coils in the actuator. Make sure someone checks for that before replacing one of the very tough BOGE shocks.
     
  8. jimiguy

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    I had the same problem and it was a simple matter of replacing one of the sensors. It cost about $350.

    All the best,

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  9. vrsurgeon

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    I thought the actuator was built into the shock? Weren't the 355's the last with the actuators.
     
  10. tazandjan

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    Curt- Whoops, you are correct, fouled that one up. Been helping too many 550 owners with Bilsteins.
     
  11. vrsurgeon

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    I WISH we had the external actuators.. simple, easy repair with the Corvette part. :( Stupid Sachs have to be sent somewhere or replaced outright...
     
  12. English Rebel

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    I sent a email to FCI and got this response from the service rep.

    Good morning Alan,
    Diagnosis starts at 1 hour. It runs $100 for your car. Pulling the fault is just the beginning. If we do get a fault for a shock for example. That doesn't mean it's a bad shock. We would have to test the wiring within the system. Determine if it is a bad shock. A sensor, a faulty ecu, Or even a faulty wiring issue. Unfortunately the test equipment only gives us fault code which tells you which system to test? They don't tell you which part to replace. Please let me know when you would like to bring the car by. I'd be happy to fit you in when it best fits your schedule. I hope you have a great day,

    $100 gets me what -- a faulty shock/sensor/wiring/et al. At least it tells me which corner -- right.
    Any comments?
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  13. vrsurgeon

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    The fault code will be logged as to what the system thinks is wrong.. it could be a sensor that it thinks is working sporadically. I wouldn't pay them a dime more than the scan personally. Unfortunately without the SD/Leonardo it's replace parts until no code.. you kinda need it to know what part it thinks is broken.
     
  14. tazandjan

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    Curt- You actually have BOGE shocks made by ZF. They are far superior shocks to the Bilsteins fitted to earlier Ferraris, which caused Ferrari all kinds of warranty problems. The 575M has the Mannesmann-Sachs shocks, which are essentially bulletproof. The BOGEs are almost as good.
     
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    #15 vrsurgeon, Aug 9, 2014
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    Oh. I know the manual states that we have Boge's (which last like a million years and I LOVE btw).. I read on here a few times that Sachs was the maker. I'm going to find an imprint and confirm. Kewl thank you for the info! :)

    Edit: Just found pic of the front shock.. made by Mannesmann-Sachs! PN 172744.. front shock. Apparently there is an error in the manual. I'm shocked and in awe!
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    Curt- Right you are. I was just looking through the WSM trying to find a photo and could not find one, so thanks. Those shocks are pretty much bulletproof. For the owner with the bad coil indication, I would definitely check and clean the contacts for the actuator connector before thinking about swapping a new shock. Those connectors live in a pretty nasty environment.

    No wonder Brian Crall says the 360 WSM, even the Spider one I used, is so terrible.
     
  17. English Rebel

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    That is the same part number shown on Ricambi's website (174722 @ $1900 each) for the 360 Modena, Spider, and CS. Can I assume that they are same ones fitted to mine? I'll wait and see if the light comes back and take it from there.
    Thanks
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  18. Tally Ho

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    Terry - I did clean the connector on the left front but have not gone through and cleaned the others. The fault is still there. Any chance one of the other connectors is causing my issue? I'll be swapping out brake pads soon so I'll have all four wheels off and it will give me a chance to clean all of the connections. Thanks.
     
  19. Maranello550

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    Alan I have had the same problem on my 360 but only when it has sat for long periods without me driving it over the last few years. It seems to always self clear and does not come up if I drive the car Regularly?????? I spoke to my mechanic who did the diagnostics and he told me its nothing to worry about??? I would be very interested to see the feedback on your problem, as I am in the same boat.
     
  20. tazandjan

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    Bill- If it says that is where the problem is, the others probably are not causing the issue. Still worth cleaning. Make sure the shock ECU is well seated, too, although that would probably cause a general fault and show up on the SD2.

    Suspension faults sometimes show up when she has been parked on non-level ground, too. Those usually go away after being driven a couple of times.
     
  21. vrsurgeon

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    Terry, have the 550 crowd found a good rebuilder.. Just in case?

    The way I see it, its $100 for the scan. You just need to know which component is bad. It's a time saving measure....
     
  22. English Rebel

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    Mine came on after I picked it up from FCI after all four wheels were off the ground. Went away after a drive. I'm in a wait and see mode. No sense spending money if the fault never comes back.
    Any clue if my car has the Mannesman Sachs shocks, as that part number comes up on the Ricambi website for all the 360 models or did they switch some time in the cars production run?
    Alan
     
  23. peteroneferrari360

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    does anyone actually have a picture of where the right front vertical sensor on the 2001 spider 360 is? I took out the right front inner fender liner and still could not located the sensor. this is driving me nuts. I found the diagram but it does not help at all? I need the actual location or maybe what i have to remove to get to the sensor? thanks in advance.
     
  24. hangarsixco

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    Dude, check your other post. I posted all the info there.

    Click this link.
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430/266728-hows-ride-quality-3.html


     
  25. English Rebel

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    Mine came on a couple of months ago while driving. After stopping and starting it went away and so far has not come back on.
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