The Purosangue Thread

MAD MAX conquers the Kings Road..............Truly

 

I don't care for the Lamborghini. It looks like they rummaged through the parts bin while dreaming of a BMW X6. Its not Lamborghini enough. And I guess that isn't a huge surprise. Trying to turn a sports car into a SUV is a daunting challenge!

As to Ferrari SUV. My opinion is in line with you all. I think Ferrari is a racing team that sells street cars to finance that endeavor. Their street cars reflect this. Because of this Ferrari has remained a dream car. The only cars I don't think people really dream of owning is a SUV. Even estate cars (station wagons), some are dreamt about- I have one friend who loves the Merc E63 AMG estate. I also think the only reason to do a SUV is increased sales volume as the current 4 seater with AWD is not a big seller. But because the GTC4 is more quirky, it makes it a bit of a connoisseur car. I like that. It gives the car some extra charm. And you know it looks like it does because they won't make a SUV- like everyone else. And thats another part of my point- the SUV could be a bit of a "me too" product. And if it sells well it means it could account for a large percentage of Ferrari sales. What would we think of Ferrari if ⅓ or (worse!) ½ of their sales were SUVs? I think the Ferrari brand could support a SUV... but at what cost to the brand? I think it would do fine for a time, but eventually it would not be as special. That's my concern....

My very humble suggestion, simply a passionate Ferrarista to Ferrari: if you need some other elements of the SUV, such as extra doors, or a little more ride height, then I think you should make a "LWB" version of the GTC4. Maybe 4" longer- all for the back seat- and maybe 1.5" higher and you could add back doors- perhaps in a way where they are more disguised than in other cars. This would not be a SUV, but simply a little bit more practical GTC4 (a practical car already). And please keep the V12.

 

If you think the Aston is hideous (which it is), then try looking at the rolls royce cullinan... It's an absolute shocker!
I really don't get all this SUV hype from supercar/ultra luxury car makers. Yes they will sell well but it's just sad for them to go that route.

 

Well my wife is asking me to cancel the Cayenne Turbo (2020) deposit and get the Urus. So surely Lambo is doing something right about getting attention to their brand. I have no idea if I will do this but I would have never walked into a Lambo dealership before the Urus.

 

The sweater will produce a Ferrari suv..look what the cayenne did for Porsche in terms of sales growth and profitability. Ferrari is a public company. Profit and growth are king...not exclusivity...anymore...

 

I actually like the new Cayenne design, far superior from all the predecessors.

 

I liked the idea of a new Lambo SUV as much as I hate the idea of a Ferrari SUV.
But now it's been revealed, I am actually quite disappointed with the Lamborghini SUV.

Probably a factor of being based off the VW's SUVs platform (?) for exterior design and proportions (+ regulations), and I find the interior design purposelessly busy, with no cool factor like I can feel in the Uracan for example. Interior makes me think of my Robotix toys when I was a kid.
I like the price point and they did a much better job with exterior design than with the recent Bentaya (which has a gorgeous interior), and super boring dull new Cayenne (interior exterior). But they did not surprise me. Won't be buying one.

 

Yes, similar to what I had mentioned before about going the direction of Outback/CrossCountry rather than simply another SUV.

+1
Add suicide doors similar to that of RX7 and thus keeping the coupe apperance.

 

If for the purpose of profit and growth, it makes more sense to manufacture
mid-engine V12s than SUVs. Just my 2 cents.

 

Fascinating developments Mario. I wonder if such a door arrangement means the rear doors can only be opened if the front doors are opened? I'm curious to see what happens.

 

They all do.... Levantes are produced in Turin. The 8C was built by Maserati (as it was to a large extent based on the Gransport


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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ferrari/30374/ferrari-suv-confirmed-for-late-2019-fastest-suv-crown-targeted?_mout=1&utm_campaign=autoexpress_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter

It's happening

 

Just about to post the same. And quicker than we thought
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Speaking at the 2018 Detroit Motor Show, Fiat boss Sergio Marchionne said we'll be seeing the Ferrari SUV sooner than we thought
Fiat Chrysler boss Sergio Marchionne has said the Ferrari SUV could be ready by 2019 – and claimed it will be the fastest vehicle of its type.

The colourful CEO initially indicated his intention to build an SUV – or FUV (Ferrari Utility Vehicle) in November 2017 and has since seen Lamborghini enter the market by launching the Urus.

• Detroit Motor Show 2018 news

At the Detroit Motor Show, Marchionne went on the record again about his plans. Dismissing suggestions the brand would build a truck, he stated: “It will look like whatever a Ferrari utility vehicle needs to look like”. “But it has to drive like a Ferrari.”

As you would expect, it will be devastatingly quick. Asked by Auto Express if he aimed to build the fastest SUV in the world, Marchionne responded: “So far the fastest SUV belongs to Alfa [the Stelvio Quadrifoglio] and I don’t think Ferrari fears Alfa”. “It will do its best to build the fastest SUV.”

The Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio lays down a tough benchmark in the performance SUV class with its 503bhp twin-turbo V6 rendering it capable of 0-62mph in 3.8s and a 176mph top speed. By the time the Ferrari SUV arrives, however, Lamborghini’s Uruswill be on the streets with its 641bhp twin-turbo V8 yielding claimed performance of 3.6s and 189mph - that’s likely to be the Ferrari’s real target, whether it likes to admit it or not.



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We also learned that the car will be ready much sooner than predicted. When asked by Auto Express, when it would hit the market, Marchionne responded: “Probably by the end of [20]19, the beginning of [20]20. I’ve seen the car when I was in Europe eight days ago. So we are working on the vehicle but it’s not finished”. “They’re just mock up bodies just now. But it looks good.”

The plan has outraged some Ferrari purists, but with FCA striving to become profitable there appears to be solid business logic behind the plan to follow Ferrari’s rivals into the SUV segment. Marchionne claimed the company will be debt free in 2018, despite missing sales targets – an SUV wearing the badge of his most coveted brand seems inevitable.

However, he acknowledged the sensitivities surrounding the project and admitted: “There would be enough people even outside Ferrari who would go for me if I did ‘just a utility vehicle’.”

With Bentley and Lamborghini entering the SUV market in recent years, and Rolls-Royce about to with the Cullinan, Ferrari is the last of the high-performance or super-luxury makers to commit to this area of the market.

Ferrari's path to accepting the SUV
Towards the latter stages of 2017, Marchionne confirmed that there was strong possibility of an SUV bearing the prancing horse badge in the next few years.

Speaking to Bloomberg, Marchionne, CEO of Fiat ChryslerAutomobiles, confirmed that it is “dead serious” about producing a Ferrari SUV, while also rubbishing rumours that FCA will part ways with SUV subsidiary Jeep.

Referring to the vehicle as the ‘FUV’ (Ferrari Utility Vehicle), Marchionne, 65, had previously played down the rumours of a Ferrari crossover, but then said Ferrari would take about 30 months to consider production of the vehicle. He said: “We need to learn how to master this whole new relationship between exclusivity and scarcity of product, then we’re going to balance this desire to grow with a widening of the product portfolio.”

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Sources cited by the Bloomberg news agency suggested that the ‘Ferrari Utility Vehicle’ could form part of a new five-year-plan designed to boost sales beyond Ferrari’s current self-imposed limit of 10,000 cars per year.

The firm primarily keeps to this limit to stay on the correct side of emissions rulings in some markets, though it ensures a level of exclusivity for the brand too.


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Having previously strongly denied that Ferrari would ever venture into the SUV segment, Marchionne reiterated that Ferrari would not be creating an SUV in the mould of those offered by other manufacturers and that “you have to shoot me first” if it did. “It has not been done to compete with Porsche” he said, referencing the German brand’s hugely profitable move into the SUV sector with its Cayenne.

It’s understood that further hybridisation of the Ferrari range is also under consideration, to ensure it can continue to grow sales without breaking emissions rules.

Bloomberg reported that we could get our first official inkling of the brand’s long term plan sometime in 2018. Should Ferrari decide to go down the SUV avenue, it will be among the final acts of Marchionne, who will step down as boss of the Fiat Chrysler Group in 2019, followed by bowing out of Ferrari in 2021.

Bloomberg sources said an SUV act as a “four-seat family car that offers more space than Ferrari’s current two-door GT4CLusso”, and would be centred mainly around Asian markets, with Chinese customers in Ferrari’s marketing crosshairs.

 

Well I hope it looks better than that Tim. To me it is a cross between a Macan and the Bentley bullfrog.

Sad day me thinks

 

Very, but then we live in a different world, this one created by the IPO.

 

Yeah. That's a looker right there. Maybe go for the painted (stenciled) shields and some CF? Perhaps a window tint. Likely the first new Ferrari you don't car where you park it.

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The front is heavily derived from a 599, which I would not consider a very likely option.

 

Ferrari is synonymous with exotic, sexy, racing, and lovely engines. So much so that it is difficult to imagine such a pedantic vehicle to be added to the lineup. It is just different from any other brand in that respect. I don’t think it will necessarily detract from them or be damaging but it is just difficult to wrap my mind around it.

I kind of think if they are gonna do this it needs to be super awesome. Like when Ducati introduced their adventure bike that competes with BMW. It doesn’t look like any other bike in that class.

I hope when the real SFUV is revealed that it is more interesting than those pics...


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Even though I know I won't be a fan, I'm actually quite intrigued in what they will come up with.