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  1. 456-boy

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    Some SRT SUV are NA engined if I’m not mixing with some other cars.
    But all European SUV are turbocharged.
     
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    In the case the Purosangue will be having a V12 engine which the platform can support (they'll certainly adapt the one from the 812) it will be NA and probably hybrid. If that happens I presume he Purosangue will be the only commercial SUV available with a NA V12 engine.
     
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    That's a graft of what well informed ClubAlfa.it published yesterday about the Purosangue mule recently spotted at Fiorano.

    "…….The Ferrari Purosangue will embody the Maranello-based automaker's first super SUV and, when its development was announced, fans of the brand were divided between praise and heavy criticism.
    For many, the Prancing Horse would be distorted with such a large and heavy vehicle, but apparently Ferrari thinks differently. For our part, we are sure that the expert engineers of the Maranello team are giving everything to be able to market a vehicle with exceptional dynamic qualities and with the usual and appreciable sound that distinguishes the other models.
    For a few weeks now, preliminary prototypes of the Purosangue have been spotted circulating in the ice of Scandinavia being tested, but in the vast majority of cases it was almost impossible to clearly hear the sound produced by the exhaust pipes.
    This time, however, Varryx uploaded a short and at the same time very interesting clip to his YouTube channel, where another prototype of Purosangue darted along the Italian Fiorano track. As usual, the camouflage is very invasive, and testifies to the fact that the brand is not yet ready to publicly reveal the shapes of its sporty SUV but, even if it is possible to modify it to mislead the listeners, the sound comes out crystal clear from the rear of the car. For this reason we strongly advise you to view the video above.
    At the current state of affairs we know very few details regarding the technical characteristics. The Purosangue will certainly use a new architecture developed to perfectly implement the engine in the front, while the gearbox (automatic dual clutch) will be housed on the rear axle. Unfortunately we do not know if the team will want to turn to a mighty V12 or a more modest V8, but it is clear that the efforts in the development phase will allow the possible electrification of the system, whether they are mild-hybrid or perhaps plug-in hybrid. Another highly anticipated evolution concerns the use of new adjustable air suspensions, and for our part we can't wait to be able to attend the official presentation.
    The marketing of the Ferrari Purosangue is expected for an unspecified period of 2022, and the chances of it becoming the best-selling Ferrari model of all are very high. Just think of the great success achieved by the Lamborghini Urus…."
     
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  8. 456-boy

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    It’s actually not the music of an Italian V12
     
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    You right, that isn't the music we want to listen to therefore the doubt continuous since isn't possible to identify with a certain degree of accuracy if this mule is powered by a V12 or not.
     
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    In this last video discovered by 456-boy we see a Purosangue mule on an urban street that Red Passion mentioned could be located in Germany. In the pictures below appear the last four mules that have been spotted since February 2021.
    If we take a close look at the camouflage of the two mules spotted in February 2021 we see it is the same, suggesting that the car spotted in Fiorano and in Sweden is the same. The mule spotted in Fiorano on March 8 has a different camouflage from the one spotted on March 10 outside Italy, possibly in Germany, suggesting they are different cars. Unless the camouflage of this first mule was changed between the two close spotting dates in March, which doesn't seem very plausible, that can be an indication that Ferrari is using more that one mule for the tests.


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    SUV will have same wheel base as Roma?
     
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    Not Roma, but Lusso close to a few centimeters.
     
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    SUV will be not on same platform as Roma?
     
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    I was talking about the wheelbase.
     
  17. 456-boy

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    The Purosangue will be based on the same platform as the Roma, but the wheelbase and the running gears are absolutely not known to date.

    Logically the wheelbase will be longer than the Roma, as the Roma is a 2+ car whereas the Purosangue will be a true 4 or 4 seats with 2 doors on each side - which means more space in the cabin, then a longer wheelbase.
     
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    Many thanks @MDEL for the comparison you made of the different mules spotted. I was about to do it but you did perfectly did it!

    Indeed it is very very « low » plausible (don’t know how to say it properly in English) that the camouflage is changed from a test drive to another. They usually keep the same camouflage on the car, and is not changed even if they change a body panel - but the camouflage on the other panels stay the same.

    Also I’m not surprised that they test all the features of the new model on different cars - better having different drivers, different protocols, different settings to test and to validate.

    Other subject: any guess or ideas is the future name of the Purosangue?
     
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    Other mules will continuo being spotted and then we will have the opportunity of comparing their camouflages in order to be more certain that Ferrari is effectively using more than one test car.
    Concerning Ferrari's future use of the name Purosangue on the FUV, last year they sued and Italian charity for using the same name and I have no idea how it ended. From what I've been reading until now Ferrari plans to use the Purosangue name on the incoming FUV and I haven't read or heard anything about the possibility of using alternative names.
     
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    The Purosangue mules with Levante body spotted until now are all set on a low-riding position. Perhaps that’s an indication that Ferrari favors a Purosangue with maximum road performance in detriment of its off-road capabilities.
    Ferrari already mentioned that the Purosangue will get an innovative suspension with variable height adjustment and who knows if they come-up with something crazy unconventional. If they don’t, I guess the Purosangue will be using an air suspension similar to the one equipping the Porsche Cayenne turbo S that has one of the best-sorted air suspensions setups in the industry.
    The Cayenne suspension system can vary ground clearance between 16.17 cm (6.37 inches) and 24.48 cm (9.64 inches) and offers great control abilities over the damping levels. The Cayenne suspension is complemented with rear wheel steering and that’s something the Purosangue will certainly be having.

    The pictures below show the Purosangue recently spotted in Sweden in a low-riding position side by side with an hypothetical mule set on a high-riding position.








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    I thought the G Wagon had a NA V12
     
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    You are wrong.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    I don’t believe the body work on any of the PS mules are the real body. They all appear to have the Maserati Grecale body underneath. The drive system is quite probably the PS however I think that we have not seen the bodywork. Just my speculation.
     
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    From what we have seen it’s not only a speculation but a fact that we haven’t seen the real bodywork.
     
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