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  1. Chicko

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    You expected it to be predicable and awful looking? Sad times..
     
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  3. Gh21631

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    True but try building an SF90 or an 812, it is very easy to put in $75,000 to $100k+ in options
     
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    An SUV in Europe or China will be in very low demand. A Ferrari SUV is mainly for the US market and the competition is heavy. If they get it right it will do well but from what these pictures are showing I am not so sure.
     
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    I expected it to follow the current design philosophy of the brand. Yes, that was very predictable.
     
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  8. Chicko

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    Going on the comments in this thread, people will buy anything with the "right" badge.
     
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    To your point, rather than a distinctive character for a specific model, it appears they want to cut and paste familiar details so no one forgets it’s related to other Ferrari’s.
     
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    For sure, some will. Some of my close friends are huge Ferrari fanatics and they aren't feeling this one so far. They buy pretty much every car they put out.
     
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    This stuff happens all the time especially the rears. I'm sure Enzo owners weren't too happy with the 430 rear design, especially the distinctive taillamps. 458 and F12 went single taillight. At first glance an 812 and Lusso rears can be mistaken for each other. It's the familial look.

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    A Ferrari cute-ute with electric motors? 5 years ago I would have said no chance, but now it seems likely. The next Macan will also be an EV.
     
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  15. crinoid

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    There is a way to this with some integrity. I have no problem with a halo car having cutting edge stuff and have similar however model specific versions on other models. Bad cut and paste on a car that shouldn’t exist in the first place is just gross.
     
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    As per the Ferrari Corporate 2021 Results Presentation, - "order books stronger than ever, covering well into 2023 (bottom of Page 8). Not sure how Marcel gets 27,000 from this? Maybe 18,000 for the next year and a half? 27,000 would take us well into 2024 ? At current production levels.
     
  18. Forza Scuderia

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    Ha! I can’t jump on THIS bandwagon. I happen to think that Manzoni and his team do a great job overall across the now vast catalog. They have an EXTREMELY difficult task with all the models and derivatives in the current line up … and to make them all look different from each other … and different from the models that came before … while still making them all look like part of the Ferrari family … is extraordinarily challenging and I think they do it as well as can be done.

    In particular, I believe the SP3 is a masterpiece of Italian design.
     
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    I'm not sure if this is a serious criticism or you're trying to be funny. Ferrari has been doing this for generations. Look at a 355 and an F50 side by side. Or how about a 288 and a 308? Testarossa and 348. Need I go on?
     
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  20. Chicko

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    The difference is, they took the great design aspects from those models you mentioned. But these days more often than not they take ugly and bad aspects.
     
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  21. U-Boat Commander

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    Got it. Ferrari old = good. Ferrari today = bad.
     
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    Copying an incredibly beautiful, purposeful design language of a 308 and taking it to the 288 is one thing, this is another. The fussy, non purposeful, non harmonious design elements of the current cars, are cut and pasted on the front and back of a traditional SUV. The point he is making is they are badge identifying a bland, boring SUV design platform. Ever since this company went public and fired thier design team at Pinin, the products have a destinctive, design by committee look. The Daytona is a perfect example. I wish it were a joke, its not.

    To ad insult to injury, there is likely nothing stopping my wife wanting one, and thus the irony is I will have an ironic and painful reminder in my driveway of how the near mythic company I adorned, sold its badge. With the death of the ICE engine and death of the engine/heart of Ferrari, on our doorstep, I dont see how the brand can come to represent anything other than a lux brand. 1,000 hp, 1 second 0-60 heavy silent electric machines are not my idea of a driven sportcar


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  23. U-Boat Commander

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    So what color are you getting?
     
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    Look, nobody wants Pininfarina back as much as me. But, given who is currently steering the ship, they did exactly what I expected. And it was obvious from the test mules. I don't think anyone should be surprised.

    Honestly, I'm just glad that it's not worse. I actually thought it would be more bland.
     
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    I don’t agree with your assessment. As I said, it can be done well or done poorly.
     
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    Some parts of the SP3 are good and some parts are terrible.
     
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    She said white or red, and her delivery will have more in common with her additional Birkin, than anything in the garage I care about.


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