Swissol products?

I have heard some good things about them, but have never personally used them. Please let us know how your Boxer turns out.

 

It better be real good for $600.00

 

$600.00 YOU HAVE TO BE ON CRACK TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY. I have been detailing cars for 4 years and use stuff alot cheaper and will bet it has a better shine when done.

 

I sure hope their product is better than their website. the website sucks. tried to order the free book, but got some errors... i use griots stuff and its great.

 

Most likely, the Swissol wax/glaze you have ordered is a good product, but in order to get that deep, liquid luster, wax alone doesn't obtain that result. Surface preparation is the key step before the glaze is applied. Zymol also has a wax/glaze that is designed for single stage Ferrari paintwork, it is called ITAL and costs about $60. Most likely, the Swissol products(I have checked them out) are a "knock-off" of the Zymol products. There are also "tricks" of the professional detailing business for proper usage of any wax or glaze, and if not experienced, your end results may not be what you expected, or match the results of a professional detailer such as myself.

There are better glazes than the Zymol ITAL, but it works very nicely. I use Zymol in my detailing business, but I first spend most of the time preparing the surface, then depending on what the customer is expecting, I upgrade the glaze all the way to Vintage($1300 a container).

Frank, why don't you send your car to me, as you will be more than pleased with the end results... just ask my other clients.

 

Geee... I didn't know you were an expert in detailing. Perhaps you need to have your eyes examined and spend more than 3 micro seconds looking at my car, as everyone else says that my paintwork and interior leather is presitine. The last time I saw your car, the paint had this "haze" layer on it, coupled with some spider webbing. Yeah, your car looks pretty good, but it can always be better.

Ciao.......

 

Frank, I hate to say it but these kinds of products are targeted for people exactly like you who are willing to pay for them. It probably works no better than Turtle Wax.

Anybody remember the wiper blades that had 3 edges on them... touted as being much more effective than traditional blades? They used to advertise on TV and charge 5 times the price of traditional blades. I met the guy who invented them... turns out he was targeting people who were willing to pay the high prices... and the wipers were actually less effective than traditional blades.

He made a fortune... the people who took the bait got the shaft.

 

Frank: Detailing is in the process, the paint preparation. There is a good post here by Sunny in the FAQ section on how to prepare your paint to make the car look great.

Regarding which wax to use: Unless you are a pro, you will have a difficult time discerning what a car has been waxed with. And, honestly, I believe that even some pro's can't tell the difference. What makes the car look good is all of the preparation that goes into a car before you wax the car. The wax is basically just there to protect your paint. The properly prepared car will look great without any wax at all.

If you want to learn more about detailing, I suggest you vist www.autopia.org

Lots of detailing fanatics there. You can probably do a search on their site about Swissol- I'm sure it's been used before.

Hope this helps.

Dom

 

I think there was something not too long ago in the uk section about swissol. From what i can gather it is basically a rip off/copy (call it what you like) of Zymol. I believe that the guy who started it all originally worked for Zymol. With regard to carnauba content, the ital glaze (designed for Italian cars) that Zymol sell contains 47% Brazilian No.1 Yellow and White Carnauba by volume (90% Yellow, 10% White). The Concours glaze which is a bit more expensive contains 47% Brazilian No.1 White and Yellow Carnauba by volume (90% white, 10% yellow). There are even more expensive ones that they sell, but then again how much do you really want to spend on wax....

 

I have used Swissol for my M3, with very good results. I am not a pro, but from my point of view, the car looked great after this.

 

Yeah, I think many of the people on Autopia feel that Zymol is a bit overpriced for what you get. In addition to looking at the reviews, you can do a search in their forums, and you will find that there are a number of posts about Swissol.

As I stressed above, I think proper paint preparation is the key to a great looking car, and the particular wax that you use doesn't make much of a difference IF you have good prep.

A few months ago, I waxed different sides of my trunk lid with 2 different waxes, and brought it over to Crystal Cove here in SoCal. A couple Fchatters looked at the results (Jordan, Jet-X, I don't remember who else), and couldn't tell the difference between the two different waxes I used.

I've met a great guy at Meguiars (Mike Phillips) who has this philosophy on waxes: Find what you like, and use it often.

I wholeheartedly agree. There's a whole world of waxes and polishes out there. Some are cheap, some are not. Most will give you good results. If you feel that you like the swissol, and it makes you happy, then go ahead and continue using it.

Best Wishes,
Dom

 

I am no wax expert but i have used the swissol porduct on both my 308 and 355. I had used McQuires before so I used the swissol cleaner fluid and the scuderia wax. I thought the results were better than McQuires but only marginally. I fully admit that I do hate polishing and I am probably not that good at it but assumming I was equally "amateur" with both waxes then the results of the slight advantage are valid. I am sure however, that a professional detailer, would make my cars look stunning in comaprison to what I can do, whatever polish they choose to use !

 

By the way I did find Swissol easier to use from application to buffing.

 

Interesting:

Check out zymol.com/legal/swissol.htm

 

i have full set and use them on my 360, its great stuff you should have no probs with it

 

Frank – Please post your results and comments with pictures when finished.

(group of people in a smoke filled room – hand goes up in the back)
Hi
My name is Frank L and I’m a Waxaholic…I first became addicted at 16 with my 396 Chevelle and a can of Turtle Wax.

True story –

I literally purchase and try every new product that comes out. At last count I had over 60 wax products. I local struggling mobile detailer comes by about once a month and I give away products to him that don’t make my “top shelf” list. Yes, I have the $1300 Zymol (was a gift) and divided it up and sent it away to members of Autopia, where I was a contributing editor for over 4 years. BTW – I think Zymol Concours outperforms it and the fancy container is now a paper weight. I know Mike at Meguiar’s and have trophied 4 times in the past 18 months with my 355.

Now to a few bullet points (before BRUCE chimes in with a wax and mats flame 

As stated previously, polish is the key (preparation). Use the analogy of framing a picture with glass. Wax is the glass. Does not matter what kind of glass you use, if the picture is old and faded that will be your result. What you see is what you get. The objective is to get a perfect surface before applying the wax. A polish will rejuvenate the paint and remove fine swirl marks and blemishes. I’m skilled with a buffer and use a variety of products – However, good results can be obtained by hand with Klasse, Autoglym, or P21-S.

Buffing is like sanding wood. You start out with 60 grit, but that leaves “marks”, so you follow with 100 grit, 120, etc until it’s baby butt smooth. Polish begins with moderately aggressive grit, but leaves marks so you follow with a swirl mark remover, followed by a finer polish, etc etc. The guy with the Camero could have used a buffer and if you think you’ll get the same results by hand you may be disappointed – but we’ll see.

Wax is a matter of preference – Re carnauba - many companies hype it. Swissol states their top wax is 60% carnauba … I doubt that. Carnauba is hard as a rock in it’s natural form and the highest percentage you can put in a past wax is around 30%, otherwise it would not be in paste form – it would begin to solidify.

I personally have not tried Swissol. Frank, again post your comments with before and after pictures. The results should be interesting.