Taking the F12 plunge....

Congrats on the purchase... a great decision! I bought mine last year and like you also live in Central London. It still excites me every time I take off the covers and start up that blaring V12! After a short while I had the valves opened permanently as I wanted to hear more of the V12, more of the time.

I had bought a controller but thought I would just see what it was like with the valves permanently open first and it’s perfect so I never got the controller out of the box! The main thing for me is that it gives you much more sound at lower RPMs which I like.

Enjoy!

 

Driving it around already?

 

Oh he has been driving it all day, messaged me that he's enjoying it.
Got mine from the same dealer 10 days ago in Rosso Fuoco

 

Do let me know as I'm 15 minutes from Hampton Court, be great to hear your car, see if we can get Rog down for the day.

 

Sure.
Hampton Court Palace, on Sat. the 5th for the Concours of Elegance.
We should be there from 9am- 16.00 ish
I will pm you my number.
Ps can't see the photos of your car.

 

be sure to check out the hedge maze there

 

Hi
I just wanted to check with you on your tyre thoughts. The Pirelli came with my F12 2015. If i could reduce the dartyness of the steering, reduce road noise, and improve cold weather grip. What is your experience with those three things?. Michelins ?

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I switched my 355 and Alfa quadrifoglio from Pirelli to Michelin and it is night and day better. Someone here joked that the P-Zero puts the traction level right in the name: zero. The P Zero Corsas on the Alfa are downright scary they are so stuttery and slippery except when 125°+.

My F12 came with 2017 dated Michelin Supersport K2 which are now NLA but the newer SS 4S are great so far, much better again.

 

Such a great pearl color, it really glows. Which is what bums me out about TdF, it looks lighter under artificial light - and certain angles it looks like a nice indigo - but most of the time in sunlight it gets very dark to the point there is little detail seen: Image Unavailable, Please Login

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Yep, that'll do it

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Sounds like a great time

The small difference in tyre temp is normal. Unless you have the car corner balanced for just you, there will always be a slight difference.

4-5 degrees is not enough to affect pressure in a significant way. Also, the TPMS is not always 100%. Remember to check your pressures occasionally in the morning using a good gauge.



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So the bottom line combination of the above is your best thoughts on suitability MPS4S 265/35R20 9.5" - 315/35R20K1 11.1"

 

Yes. Both will of course work, but I think that the 265 provides an overall better balance.

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Thank you for above, have a slight dilemma, Dealer just put 2 Pirelli PZeros on the rear 10 days ago and fronts are past 6 years car is booked to go in for 2 new fronts next week, If we replace like for like will end up with 4 new Pirellis which means rubbish handling for a while, however if I opt for the Michelin P4S 265 fronts then as rears will need replacing sooner I will then be on the ideal 4 tyres. Would you think running Michelin fronts and Pirelli rears for a while would work?

 

Really enjoyed reading your experience above Rog, and well done for making the effort to go collect the car, will touch base soon.
Enjoy in good health

 

What ever you do, don't mix the PZero rears with MPS4S fronts. I have not personally tried it, but know the nature of each tyre, that would be a serious handful with a VERY tailhappy car. Why not just see the two new PZero's as a bit of added expense and get the better set when the car goes in? We spend so much already so does it actually matter compared to the tradeoffs? If it will make you feel any better, go and have a bit of sideways fun on the PZeros, then you won't feel as bad about replacing "new" tyres as you can quickly get than half way down. We should all try and improve our drifting skills on occasion

 

Oh you're so right, why not indeed as it gives me an excuse to practice sideways driving for a bit

 

F12 tyre pressures:-
The hand book says:-
Pirelli P Zero------------.Front 30.5 psi/ 2.1 bar, rears 29 psi /2.0 bar
Michelin Pilot super sport Front 34.8psi /2.4 bar, rears 31.9 psi/2.2bar

That seems quite a jump on the fronts?
I will be running 265 wide MPS 4S with slightly wider wheels, do you think I should be aiming for the tyre preesure shown in the hand book?
Or do you have any other thoughts?
Thanks

 

How does one correct the darty steering? At high speeds, it is really scary!

 

The carcass of the F12 PZero and MPSS are very different, so that's why there's such a big difference. The 812 runs a higher PSI on PZ4, but still lower than what it would run on Michelins. I'd keep the rear 2.2 but drop the front to 2.3 due to the increase in volume. I find the 2.4 in the MPSS to be on the high side of things in the F12 anyway, so 2.3 for the 265 MPS4S.

 

Before you try and correct anything, make sure you take the car to an allignment shop that do a proper four wheel measurement. See if the car is where it should be. If one front wheel has been knocked out of toe so it toes out even more than stock spec, that will increase the dartyness even further. Fact is that it is not that uncommon for a Ferrari to come with the alignment off a bit so start by making sure it's at stock spec.
If all checks out, you ran then reduce the toe out a bit, or even try going to toe in. But get it to stock specs first if it's not at that, and see how that feels.

 

Its pure genius! The entire function in one button. Genius I tell you...