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  1. truman bond

    truman bond Formula Junior

    Sep 9, 2006
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    Hi all
    Ah ha, just back from USA. While there I took a ride in a 328 and a Mondial T...

    and surprisingly, despite being 6' 5" I could fit in, but will need a couple of spacers on the steering wheel so as to be able to get the rest of my lower body in.

    I love the look of the 328 and am very drawn to it, but the Mondial seemed to drive better. Perhaps the 328 was not a good one. IMHO the 328 seemed a bit flat in terms of visceral feel and sound. Can anyone share info on whether there is more or less visceral experience in different model years in the 328. The one I went out in was an 86 I think, poss 87.

    So far the 275 GTB4 and 355 have given me the greatest sense of what I equate with the feeling/experience of a Ferrari, but something tells me when a 3 series is tuned right, it would feel similar - am I right? - or is it that it will always be a less overwhelming / compelling experience than that offered by an earlier 12 or a 355.

    Unfortunately the 275 is likely too expensive and the 355 challenging for golf clubs.

    Many thanks - at least I know I can fit in it, one month down in teh New year's res and one step closer...

    best,
     
  2. rolindsay

    rolindsay Formula 3

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    I've owned both a 308 and a Mondial QV. I'm 5' 10" and slight-of-build so I fit both cars just fine. I find the Mondial has an 'open' feel. It seems to be designed to feel spacious. (Upper door panels tilt out, etc.) The 308GTB, which I still own (9 years now) feels like I "put it on" when I get in and I "become part of the car". THAT is the feeling I like, not the open 'passenger' feel of the Mondial. Still, they are both GREAT cars.
    Disclaimer: These opinions are worth what you paid for them. :)

    rick
     
  3. spiderseeker

    spiderseeker Formula 3

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    For "visceral experience" you need to try a 308qv , the 328 is a little too refined for for some people.
     
  4. Artvonne

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    You drive a GTS, or a GTB? The GTB has more room. Both in the roof, as well as longer tracks for the seat.

    I drove both a GTSi 2V, and a QV, and still wanted my dream car, an early 308 GTB with carbs. Thats got to be a lot closer to a 275 than anything you mentioned, at least sound wise. No masking the sounds of webers.
     
  5. truman bond

    truman bond Formula Junior

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    Seems like I need to learn about carbs, & 308's then...

    I asked another thread which was the best car all round period, given my desire for visceral / feel - & yet reasonably priced, with luggage potential + reliability.

    Answer - 308

    (now if we decided to define reasonably priced as under 500k...)

    So fill me in, tell me more about how the 308 feels, the 328 felt good above 3000 but normal below, the stwich gear was not the toggles so a tad big car manufacturer feel - but more importantly even at idle it didn;t stand my hairs up on the back of my neck

    and as for carbs - the weather in Bahamas is not often cold - is that good for carbs or bad? I've already checked out the import situation 308 would be easy.

    Hmmn seems like I'm closing in even though in other ways I have a long way to go. Black & tan would be the colour - see what I mean, I think I'm a gonner...

    Bugg a
     
  6. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    For the ultimate visceral Ferrari experience, you probably need to go to an older carb'ed car - maybe an early 308. You will sacrifice the easy startup, driveability and lesser maintenance of the 308QV/328. Fuel injection just doesn't have the drama. Even people who love the 328 and 355 will admit it's a different sound/smell/experience. A 355 with a Tubi is pure symphony, but a different kind of music than a carb'ed Boxer or even an early 308.

    I've driven '86 and '87 328s; I haven't driven a Mondial. From discussions and reading, I've heard the 328 is quite a bit more visceral (loud and immediate feeling) than the Mondial, due to its shorter wheelbase and the proximity of the engine. I would guess the 328 you drove needs tuning, or better gas. The Tubi exhaust on mine makes a slight difference, but to my ears it's not night and day different than the stock exhaust.

    I was told when I bought my car that the 328 was more "refined", but in comparing the last 308 QVs and the early 328s, now that I've owned one, it really is splitting hairs. The cars have the same frame, basically the same drivetrain and the same absence of soundproofing. If the seat padding is different, it must be by a few millimeters, and the "climate control" in the 328 is still pathetic compared to, say, a 2004 Kia Spectra.

    Maybe they tweaked the shocks, but you'd have to be pretty intimate with both cars to say one is "less raw" or "more comfortable". Carb'ed 308 --> injected 308 = huge difference. 308 QV --> 328 = some difference maybe.
     
  7. truman bond

    truman bond Formula Junior

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    to answer your question, .. the car I went our for a ride in was a GTS and living here I don't think a GTB would be practical, it gets so hot and I have a German Shepherd panting next to me.... besides a GTS would help me keep the speed down.

    The Mondial as you guys have pointed out does feel very spacey and room for friends as well as dog, but living here that would be a convertible too. Just can;t find the looks appealing.

    (unless of course 3 series and Mondial are known to blow ice cold)

    I'm toast - - -
     
  8. rolindsay

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  9. Birdman

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    BAD ASS!!

    I agree that if you want the visceral experience, there is no substitute for carbs. But I worry that an early 308 in the Bahamas will rust in short order. These cars have no rustproofing AT ALL and will not respond happily to salt air. What island do you live on and how far from the sea?

    Birdman
     
  10. Artvonne

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    Rick, that car gets better looking every time you post a pic. So keep posting pics, lol.

    Hard starting with carbs? Key on, wait a few seconds...1..2..3..tap gas pedal 1/4 squirt..4..tap..5..tap..twist key ..6..tapVROOOOOMMMM..tapVROOOOMMMM..tapVROOOOMMMM......putterputterputterputterputterputterputterputterputter.......tapVROOOOMMMM.....

    Or in lesser doses as required to keep hair from pushing out of the neck of your shirt. Between the carbs, the gutted air box, the K&N filter, and the ANSA exhaust, its pretty wide awake back there. I think there are some posts regarding a carbon fiber targa top. More head room, more storage space/seat room, etc., if you need a GTS. There are also ways to alter the car/seat for more room.

    Reliable? I went off into Wisconsin last fall on my 48th birthday as a present to myself. I put on over 400 miles that day, on a points ignition carbed car no less, and got lost. Pic was taken far from anywhere you could roust any help, no cell service, 30 miles from any town. Not as pretty as Ricks, but shes a good lil driver....
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  11. spiderseeker

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    Still one of my favorite Ferraris and favorite Ferrari photos !!! Stunning.
     
  12. rolindsay

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  13. pete04222

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    I too am 5'10", medium build, and I agree with you on the "fit" of a 308. It's like the designers took my measurements and designed the car around me.

    BTW - Your car looks awesome!
     
  14. truman bond

    truman bond Formula Junior

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    My goodness that silver 308 looks amazing and the red one too.

    Right, I'm hooked; next US trip I'm test driving a 308 with carbs.

    OK, so the rust issue then. Hmmn -

    The thing is you don;t live here to be inland. I'm in Nassau right now and the sea is about a 7 iron away. Was on Abaco and there the sea was on occasions in the house. Yup. If we have a bad hurricane season rather than the sea being in the house, the house could in fact be in the sea. It was a rental, the landlady was odd (leased me the place but turned our she didn't own it! - her "mumsy" did - weird - run!) - so I moved, pronto.

    Ah ha, got it...

    If I sleep outside and kept the car in doors that would save it, right?

    Don't joke, I did that with a Suzuki GSX 750 before driving across USA in Dec 1992 (that long ago, I'm getting old) from Arkansas to San Fran. Although being a bike, I could still sleep in the house too. The dog then was an Aikido, he didn;t mind either.

    Or build an air con garage - can't cost that much? (can it?)

    Where there's a will, hmmn, I'm really toast.

    What about doing a repaint on a 308 - (forgive the ignorance) - could that help? If so for how long. I mean I like it here.

    See we are into February already and even though we have found an affordable (we hope) ferrari which I can fit in, it may dissolve or get washed away. Only 10 months left for this new year's Res....

    In all seriousness wherever I would live here it will be spitting distance from the sea, at very most 1000m, likely less than a par 5.

    Many thanks, this is quite a challenge.
     
  15. BwanaJoe

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    Dude, that is an awesome looking car. (Of course I am a bit partial to that color)
     
  16. Bullfighter

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    Love the early 328 wheels on it. Probably the cleanest wheel Pininfarina ever did.
     
  17. rolindsay

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    I agree. Simple and elegant.
     
  18. MREUS

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  19. blainewest

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    Will no-one mention the obvious solution for this guy? An early fiberglass 308 gtb. Costs a premium but also has much better upside potential IMHO.
     
  20. rolindsay

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    Or an early steel Standard Specification (Euro.) car. Rust? Yea, my silver GTB had some degree of rust on EVERY steel body panel. We stripped it bare, repaired every spot with new steel, acid-etch primer and new paint - even the backs of all the panels. Would it stand up to salt air? Dunno. The original paint stood up to salted roads up north for 20+ years.
     
  21. Birdman

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    All I know is that I have friends in Hawaii near the ocean, and everything metal on their house and cars gets corroded in short order! Their window hardware, door handles, garage door hardware, etc. is all nasty looking from the salt air and humidity mixed together. An early 308 would not last well at all in that environment. And you will BAKE in the car, so get a GTS!


    Best advice? get an '84 QV (galvanized!) and put Webers on it! Now ya got something!!!!


    Birdman
     
  22. truman bond

    truman bond Formula Junior

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    Sounds good!
     

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