Team radio .... stop it ?

I've noticed that it seems the teams are using coded messages to relay critical information to the teams and think if Bernie wants to introduce unpredictability into F1 then we should revert back to the old days of pit boards and hand signals as the cars go past the pits .

Telemetry is another use of technology to make the cars more reliable by using the coded messages to inform the drivers to turn specific settings on to save the car.

Personally, after watching Ferrari lose for the 21 year period, I can handle it if we lose due to no comms back to base telling the crybaby Vettel that Kvyat is coming up behind him with a snow plow on the front of his car

Or I'd be happy to see Hamilton/Vettel run out of fuel trying to catch Rosberg/Kimi following bad starts, it adds to the suspense with fuel limits

And I'm sick of hearing the whining from the drivers who are using their broadcasts to get public and private opinion on their side over specific incidents.

So, .... yes/no ??

 

While I certainly understand your thinking, I don't think they can put the genie back in the bottle.

FWIW (nothing of course) I'm pretty much with Charlie on this one; limit the radio to 'safety' type messages rather than 'coaching' is ok with me.

As for telemetry, I have no problem with the guys on the wall seeing what's going on. But the ban on two-way telemetry should stay.

My 02c,
Cheers,
Ian

 

Yes, ban the *******dy thing.

Let the drivers to monitor their car themselves.

 

That's the whole problem, they aren't using it for safety, what ever happened to the flaggies keeping the track safe ?

Putting out a pit board with position, time to the next car, call ya mum, etc

Turning the power down to save the fuel with a "water pressure is low" message is rubbish, they could just put a flashing light when you've exceeded the fuel parameter so the driver has the option to slow the car to make it to the end.

And getting the radio broadcasts during the race have nothing to do with safety, mostly they are just whinging , except for Kimi , "he knows what he is doing"

 

Yep ...

Also, radio communications are well known to be unwanted distraction when driving.

In the interest of safety, they should be banned.

 

Torn.

I prefer the concept but no more Kimi ? NO MORE KIMI?

Status Quo until he retires.

 

I tend to agree there

 

One-way radio would be fun, so we can still hear Hamilton moan that he can't get past "this guy" Max

 

I agree. Unfortunately, one way radio it wouldn't help anyone.

 

I disagree there.

We could still hear Charlie Whitting telling Hamilton he has 10 seconded penalty for exceeding track limits!!

 

Then ban radios altogether.

How did Hulkenberg know to slow in the pit in-road in China if communication wasn't relayed ?; A violation.

I'm open to either just make up their minds.
Personally I like to hear what's on Kimi's mind

 

One way radio; now there's a good idea.

 

Idea::

The teams get to communicate in one direction only.
The teams get to choose if the direction is driver to pit or pit to driver.

 

Coded messages can be used on pitboards not just radio.

Just go open radio, these cars are soo complex they really need it. Let the drivers driver and the team watch the car.

 

My initial thought was 'that's a silly idea!'......

Then I thought a little more, & kinda like it!.....

Let each of them decide which they'd prefer, but they can't have it all. It'd certainly be interesting to see who chose which approach.

Cheers,
Ian

 

Don't even need to be 'coded' on the pitboard. "If it'll fit, it's OK." As is already the case of course.

That was my vote too. Except, again, I'm with Charlie; driver coaching shouldn't be allowed.

Cheers,
Ian

 

If the cars are too complex for drivers to monitor them themselves, it's a sure indication that technology is gone too far in my book.

 

I say go back to the old school racing... And lack of 400 engineers.

Robb

 

F1 is supposed to be state of the art technology and radio was invented 100 years ago. I say free radio communications. The driver can get advice from the engineers in the same way that engineers get input about the car from the drivers.

They can use (and I´m sure they´re using) any kind of coded communications anyway, so if they still want to ban it, they should ban it totally. They can use flags and lights on the dashboard for dangerous situations and if the engine is about to blow and the driver can´t figure it out through his steering wheel display, hey, bad luck.

 

+1

 

The issue about radio is not only about giving information on engineering matters, but about the coaching and the tactics being intimated through it.

I don't have a problem with a team informing their driver about damages or anomalies developing on the car during the race, or instructing him to pit.

But I don't think the radio should be used to tell a driver how to drive, the tactics of his competitors, who to let by or who to block, or when to crawl on his way to the pit lane.

 

The vote is split a lot more evenly than I thought it'd be.

Interesting thread and poll.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

No problem for me. In any team sport the coach tells the players how to play.

 

Before radio communications became common in F1 (and motor racing in general), drivers used to figure out for themselves how to drive according to the circumstances, and which tactics to adopt. That was part of being an accomplished driver in Grand Prix.

Are you telling me that the new generation of drivers is less skilled than their predecessors ?

I don't know much about team sports, so I have no idea of the influence the coach has during a game, but surely he isn't in radio contact with the players, is he?

 

Agreed.

Which way did you think it would go?

As always, certainly one I could 'argue' either way. Pros & cons for both.....

Cheers,
Ian