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Tech question - what's next after Carbon Fibre?

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  1. Wolfgang5150

    Wolfgang5150 F1 Rookie

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    Hard to believe - but carbon fibre has been the standard F1 material for almost 30 years now. This had me thinking - what's the next evolution of chassis materials?
    Technology always evolves, so I imagine CF will be replaced at some point. Anyone have insight or thoughts on this?
    Kevin
     
  2. tundraphile

    tundraphile F1 Veteran

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    For metal parts that can handle the temperature, metal-matrix composites could be used but are banned for cost reasons as i undertsand it.
     
  3. jeffdavison

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    CF is good for what it's designed for, but so far, all the materials we use are compromises in some way or others.

    The ideal material would be a composite or custom structure using available materials in a matrix that provides the ideal ratio of strength/weight.

    Nano materials should get us most of the way there.
     
  5. jeffdavison

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  6. madmaxatl

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    +1, but thats a ways out. The tech is still fairly immature.
     
  7. TheMayor

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    Hardened crystalized aerogels
     
  8. jeffdavison

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    #8 jeffdavison, Jan 28, 2011
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    A new technology...
    Currently projected use as bone replacement, but I've read that the material will be used to make large tanker ships up to 80% lighter.

    Titanium Foam

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDwyH3z_e2M[/ame]
     
  9. JeremyJon

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    #9 JeremyJon, Jan 28, 2011
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    the auto industry will continue to borrow new tech materials from the aero industry IMO

    i do agree with the comment that design improvements will show most notable gains, look at pagani example, with the R model, they redesigned the pre-lam CF in it's lay-up and weave orientations, yielding much improved strength

    speaking of pagani, we could include thier carbo-tanium stuff LOL not sure if it's really an improved material, or a marketing thing?

    i can safely say that the F1 teams are even 'that much' further ahead then pagani's crew
     
  10. Wolfgang5150

    Wolfgang5150 F1 Rookie

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    Wow - some amazing stuff here - thanks
    Great responses
     
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    Unobtanium from Pandora.
     
  13. jeffdavison

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    Chedder?

     
  14. GuyIncognito

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    If the periodic table is any indicator, nitrogen fiber.

    :D
     
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    Graphene or at least plastics reinforced with graphene in the intermediary step.

    I'd say within 3 seasons you'll see some.
     
  18. Wolfgang5150

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    Cool ****! Thanks!

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  20. Wolfgang5150

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    Yeah; I was shocked as well. Niagara Falls is 20 minutes away from me; I want to learn more about this company.
    Thanks
    Kevin
     
  21. 430 scuderia

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    Maybe carbon-titanium. Like Pagani!
     
  22. Etcetera

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    Polymimetic alloy is the future.
     
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  24. 430 scuderia

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    What material exactly is this?
     
  25. opus10583

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    Don't remove your Wellies just yet, some of these are just word salad.
     

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