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Temporary tie rod end securing?

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  1. rjd2

    rjd2 Karting

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    Hey all, so today is bit of a milestone-after rebuilding all components of suspension/brakes/steering/cooling/MC/re-bleed, I think I'm ready to put the car on the ground! My question: how secure should I fasten the nuts on the tie rod ends, if I know the car is going to need an alignment job? I will only be pushing the car(since, it you know, doesnt have an engine in it), til it goes for engine install. I have new tie rod ends on, and when I pulled them, I couldnt do it without tearing one of the rubber boots.Should I torque those nuts all the way down for now, and let the alignment shop deal with it, or should I leave it hand tight for now? (also, minor aside...when I went to run the nuts down, I got the sense that the nuts didnt want to travel past a particular thread, even though I still had 1/2" til the nut met the hub arm. I've never re-secured one of these before-is there a trick to it? use pittman tool with socket?) thanks for the help!
     
  2. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
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    If you remember how tight it was when you loosened the nut to change the tie rod end, tighten it to almost the same or a little less, even if you don’t tighten it, the tie rod end will not move as long as it is in the spindle. Then let the alignment shop take cate of it as they have the tools to do the job.
     
  3. rjd2

    rjd2 Karting

    Jul 28, 2016
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    Thanks Mike! Currently, I have the nut secured right up to the nyloc portion of it(it doesnt seem to want to run any further without applied force for some reason). As long as I am not going to damage them by hand steering the car around a few corners, I should be good to go.
     
  4. Nuvolari

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    ALWAYS tighten down your fasteners even if they need to be un-done later on. One way or another you will always forget one which can be catastrophic.

    In my place there is a STRICT rule to tighten down everything. In those instances where it is not possible for whatever reason the fastener immediately gets a piece of bright tape put on it. This way there is no doubt as to the torque of anything.

    Never EVER rely on your memory. No matter how good it is it will let you down at the worst possible time.
     
  5. thorn

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    You don't need nylocs on tie rod ends. Also, always tighten them.
     
  6. rjd2

    rjd2 Karting

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    Thanks folks-FYI, the new tie rod ends from allferrariparts.com came with nylocs. I'll run em all the way down; I'm still not clear on one thing; I would assume that the pressure of the nut would secure the flange inside the spindle, but that's an assumption. Should I be "squeezing" the spindle arm and tie rod end together with a tool, to secure that internal flange that pops into place, or do I simply run the nut in, and it will pop into place?
     
  7. Nuvolari

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    The internal cone should have enough inherent ‘grip’ to allow the nylock to tighten without slipping. I like to use an impact gun when possible because it’s instant speed lessens the chance of slipping compared to using a regular wrench. Once seated I’ll use a torque wrench to set the fastener to torque
     
  8. mexicruiser

    mexicruiser Karting

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    The nut is tight because it is a nylock and this is what they are supposed to do. You should use a NEW nylock nut as this tie rod isn’t drilled for a safety pin. Also do torque to spec, this nut doesn’t have to be removed to do the alignement job. To tighten put some pressure on the bottom of the tie rod (sometimes a light push of the jack will be needed) to allow the cone to engage (no grease here).
     
  9. thorn

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    Oh, wait. You're talking about where it connects to the knuckle. Not the adjustment nut to the rod in the rack.

    Yes, use a nylock and definitely tighten it.
     

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