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Test Drive Experience of 599GTB

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  1. mksgr

    mksgr Karting

    Aug 13, 2006
    187
    Germany
    Just came back from a test drive in the 599GTB. I drove the car for about 5 hours on the Autobahn as well as on country roads with lots of bends. Total distance covered was around 600km.

    Unfortunately, the test car was not broken in yet (the odometer showed some 200km at the beginning of the tour…). Obviously, I treated such a brand new jewel with the due respect, i.e. I did not take the engine above 7500/min (and that only at the end of the tour at around 700km on the odometer).

    The test car was Rosso Corsa with Challenge rims and ceramic brakes. Tires were Pirelli PZero.


    Exterior Design/Cabin

    I like the exterior and interior design of the car. The 599GTB in Rosso Corsa looks much better in reality than on pictures. However, personally I prefer black or silver.

    - The cabin is fairly roomy
    - The finish is excellent, a rattling noise in the back of the cabin indicated the only area for improvement
    - The rev LEDs in the steering wheel represent an useful option; the LEDs are much easier to overlook than the rev indicator in the course of the action…
    - The Recaro sport seats are excellent: in particular, the adjustable width of the back rest (and the seat base) offers perfect support even in very fast corners
    - The Navi should be improved further (no map function available, difficult to operate due to very small buttons etc.)
    - The BOSE sound system is of average quality – however, I did not use it much given the nice engine sound
    - A cruise control should be offered soon – otherwise the car is very difficult to drive on speed restricted roads


    Driving impressions

    - The engine is a real masterpiece
    - It revs like hell – to let it rev in idle mode (side door open) is an unforgettable experience! You instantly believe that this machine is a derivative of the Enzo engine…
    - The engine sound is not as loud as in case of a Gallardo or F430 but still present under all circumstances
    - As in all Ferraris I have driven the sound has a very broad spectrum – very nice
    - Throttle response is excellent
    - The car can easily be driven slightly below 2000/min in inner city traffic
    - Having said that, the engine needs revs to develop its massive power
    - The steering is light and direct – best steering feel (and feed-back) can be expected in RACE mode
    - The Ceramic brakes are extremely powerful; the car’s weight is absolutely no problem for the brakes under any conditions
    - The brake pedal is not as direct as (for example) in a 997TT with PCCB; the brake pedal has some initial slack
    - Brake power can be adjusted very precisely
    - The suspension setup provides for a combination of two cars in one: a comfortable GT and an aggressive super sports car
    - In the WET or SPORT mode the car is remarkably comfortable; still body horizontal and vertical body roll is limited to a minimum
    - In RACE mode the precision of the suspension is further improved
    - Driven in RACE mode the 599GTB exhibits only very negligible body roll in tight bends or upon application of the brakes
    - In tight bends the car shows initial understeer (only for a fraction of a second, though) and then somehow transforms itself into a very agile and neutral handling car
    - Obviously, lots of oversteer can be added any time by applying the throttle
    - The 599GTB’s front end gets noticeably lighter when the throttle is applied (unlike the AWD driven 997TT, for example)
    - The car is rock solid (even at very high speeds) on Autobahn straights and in Autobahn bends; max speed I did was around indicated 295kph (due to traffic constraints and as I did not want to rev above 7000/min for a longer time)
    - High-speed aerodynamics seem to work – the car feels very reliable in Autobahn bends even at around 250kph
    - Traction is very remarkable for a 620hp RWD car, although I would argue that AWD is the superior concept for high-performance sports cars (see 997TT or Gallardo)
    - The F1 gearbox is very fast in SPORT/RACE mode and fairly comfortable in WET/SPORT mode; the Auto mode can be used as a fairly comfortable alternative for inner city driving, traffic jams etc.


    Summary

    - An excellent car with a great personality!
    - Combines a true GT and a true super sports car
     
  2. GiB_@!

    GiB_@! Formula Junior

    Jul 24, 2005
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    Alex
    AWD better ? lol.
     
  3. allegretto

    allegretto Formula Junior

    Aug 3, 2006
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    Herman
    I'm curious about the comment;

    "...Obviously, lots of oversteer can be added any time by applying the throttle..."

    That seems a little counter-intuitive unless the car is already oversteering or you snap the wheel, or ...?

    In my experience ading throttle in a conrolled manner loads the rear wheels and helps control oversteer.

    Could you explain further?
     
  4. mksgr

    mksgr Karting

    Aug 13, 2006
    187
    Germany
    When turining into a narrow bend you feel initial understeer (fraction of a second) and then the car feels pretty neutral. If you then apply the throttle (still driving through the bend) the neutral behaviour can be transformed into oversteer.
     
  5. mksgr

    mksgr Karting

    Aug 13, 2006
    187
    Germany
    You can bet on this :) Just do a test drive and you will be convinced.
     
  6. ttgangsta

    ttgangsta Karting

    Oct 20, 2004
    176

    As someone who tracks a Porsche Turbo and has recently been driving Gallardos I would argue awd is inferior. Sure if you are a modiocre driver and you want the car to make you fast awd helps, but from a raw performance perspective it gets old on the track and when driving fast. You can't throttle steer at all and it always makes the front of the car feel heavy. Im sure in a 0-60 race the awd helps, but after that it just adds weight and drivetrain loss.
     
  7. mksgr

    mksgr Karting

    Aug 13, 2006
    187
    Germany
    Many people many views. In the end the views of those are important who spend their money on the cars... I am one of them :)
     
  8. frefan

    frefan F1 Veteran

    Apr 21, 2004
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    Sounds like the perfect car to me. Thanks for sharing.
     
  9. mpatrizio

    mpatrizio Formula Junior

    Dec 29, 2004
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    And conversely, there are others who will never spend big money on AWD cars... People like me.
     
  10. ttgangsta

    ttgangsta Karting

    Oct 20, 2004
    176
    I mean they have their place, but an awd 599 would be a step in the wrong direction if you ask me, especially when you have F1-trac.
     
  11. RBK

    RBK F1 Rookie

    Jul 27, 2006
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    Bob

    A very well written and comprehensive overview. As someone considering buying a 599 and not having the opportunity to drive the car, your observations are very helpful.

    Thank you.
     
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    Feb 21, 2006
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    markus?
    did you place an order? :)
    jeff
     
  13. FJerry

    FJerry Formula Junior

    Dec 1, 2004
    933
    United States
    I agree. Thank you for the write up. While I acknowledge the advantages to AWD, I prefer RWD for the less weight and generally better steering feel it can provide. Any thoughts on how the Porsche and Lambo offset these issues? I think they do it because of their rear/ mid located engine mass- so a lot of the AWD system weight gain goes to the front to help balance out the car. But in a car like the 599, with a front/mid engine layout, I am concerned the AWD would hurt weight distribution and steering feel. I do think theres nothing like RWD for fun! JMHO.

    best regards,
    Jerry
     
  14. fastgman

    fastgman Karting

    Feb 22, 2006
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    Sounds like a great car but I think I would rather have the F430 Spider than the 599 GTB.
     
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    what about a 599 spyder? :)
     

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