Test Drove the 488 Today. Cancelled my Order, Sticking to my 458

I would give the the finger right back and maybe one of these...you must be a formula-e fan ?
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To eliminate turbo lag, you can't boost too much in low rpm. What you feel in Tesla is more instant torque rather than massive torque.

 

Its not an engine. Its an electric motor with a giant battery. Why is that impressive?

 

I say all this in a humouous tone.

Interesting 21st century commentary. Who has concerned themselves with the "power plant" when discussing top speeds of any kind? But "how dare" an electric motor enter the fray! What happens if a "driverless" car sets a record? Best

 

It's the opposite. To reduce lag, they use smaller turbos which have lower inertia. This sacrifices volume ('boost') at higher rpm's.

 

Understand your tone. I would direct you to a survey documented in volume 30 of the current Ferrari magazine. The question for both fans and clients was "Name the element that best characterizes the Ferrari brand" The #1 answer: "The music of the engine".

It is described that Enzo loved the engine most as it was the only part of the race car that would bring life to the metal with its wonderful sound. This may all be lore but it is how I feel as well. To answer your question - thankfully Ferrari has stated that they never will produce a driverless car. When someone else sets a record with one I will not care in the least. They are cold, without soul or passion.

 

I would do it if the headaches were not so strong...

A formula-e fan? OMG, read my posts, I love combustion within the cylinders, and the more oxygen is pressed into the cylinders, the better it is, go for 488!

 

Next gen 488s will be quad turbo, 1 small and 1 big by cylinder bank

 

I would have guessed they'd add an electric turbo for low end response as this is what McLaren and Porsche are rumoured to be developing.

 

Maybe for the next next gen, 2025 MY

Electric driven compressor need batterys, complex charger system and recovery power. Too expensive and heavy for the next gen.

 

I personally think it will happen sooner than that. Will electric turbos/superchargers really have a large power demand if they are only used intermittently (and mainly at lower rpm) to eliminate lag?

 

Ferrari is not innovative.

For example, no led or laser headlight

Electric compressor are not for tomorow

 

You know what buddy. Please tell me how you are going to get over 1000hp without force induction on a road car? There is a reason drag racing cars have been using blowers for years. You make comments with zero facts. You actually sound like you do not have a clue half the time you speak. I apologized because this is a forum to have fun, but you had to keep this going and now you had to make it personal. If you read anything I write, I do not favor anything. Actually if you even see what I write, you would see I am saving for a speciale and not getting myself into the 488. I prefer the N/A sound and experience. I am just not one to crap all over a turbo charged car. Turbos started in airplanes before they were in cars. It was a more effecient way of getting power, they were called turbo props. Car manufactuers adapted turbos to cars from the technology used in planes. It is not a cheaper way or cheaper engine, it is a more efficient way of getting more power and putting less stress on the engine. It is like working out, an elyptical machine may not be as hard core as running but it is a more effecient way of burning calories and not putting stress on the joints. So next time you crap all over a turbo car in general, write some facts instead of rubbish opinions that make no sense.

 

I do think the 488 sounds pretty good for a turbo car, but the 458 does have the high pitched scream that we all love.

 

If the sound is the main & the most important motivation for buying a car,i think it s an incomplete view of what a Ferrari is !!!

 

The torque is limited in the lower gears, so it's not really an 100 extra hp. Can you guys honestly say you can notice .2 second difference 0-60?

 

0-60 is mostly limited by traction and is just a popular standard set decades ago when cars were much slower. What's the difference in 0-124mph time? That should be more telling and a more appropriate yardstick for modern supercars.

 

Gtr will rip it a new one too..

 

Maybe it's time to reduce the RPM's a little bit...

By the way - turbos were used in airplanes to compensate for the power-loss due to increasing altitude. In early passenger-planes some of the pressure was used to pressurize the cabin.
Turboprops are totally different and in those airplanes the props are propelled by a gas-turbine...

 

Yes. Turbos and superchargers give more power than na engines at altitude.

Prefer superchargers as per our Audi S4. Sounds good. No turbo lag. Highway mpg 27.

 

Do you drive your car always from 0-????, from zero to somewhere?
I'm sure no one can notice this .2s difference from 0-60. But sorry, for me this number is relatively insignificant, meaningless in everyday use and on the racetrack. I dare to say what counts in the real world is the intermediate acceleration capability, and in this discipline the 488 plays in another league. Who does not feel this difference is no longer alive.

 

Exactly. 0-60 times are probably the least important metric on the street and track other than a drag strip.

 

I just watched my first formula-e race the other day on my dvr....I thought I would throw it out there for some humor. cheers !

 

I grew up flying airplanes since I was 3 years old with my father. Did someone use wikipedia? You are correct on the turboprop, for some reason I thought it was turboprops that were turbo charged. My father is a pilot and always talked about turbo charged engines so I assumed turboprops were turbo charged engines.