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  1. Len Howell

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    My 1988 Testarossa driver's seat was extremely difficult to move forward and primarily rearward, prompting me to remove it for inspection. I found all four bolts were secure and in place. Upon examining the inner slider rails, I discovered that the left (outer) rail had a noticeable twist or bend that obstructed its rearward movement. The left rail was particularly resistant to sliding fully rearward, while the right rail moved freely when I pulled the release bar. With careful effort, I managed to correct the twisted left rail, restoring its smooth hand operation to match that of the right rail. I cannot answer the cause of the dedormation other than excessive force on the seat over the years. Please refer to the attached before-and-after pictures for details.
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  2. Veedub00

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    I wonder if they were out before and got bent if it was dropped.
     
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  3. Len Howell

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    Thanks, but the twist and side I believe would be indicative of constant force on entry pushing on the frame rail. I would think I amNot the first with stuff seat sliders.
     
  4. Rifledriver

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    I dont agree. If that were the case it would be more common. Have never seen it before. I do know many have had issues with cars of that period lining up all the seat bolts. They are often removed for various repairs. Prying on seat rails to line up the holes is not uncommon and it looks like someone got carried away.
     
  5. Len Howell

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    Thanks, I realized it was uncommon due to lack of posts. However may I clarify this is nothing to do with bolt alignment, they are perfect. This is the ability of the L & R seat sliders (as the items bolted to the floor) to “slide” smoothly in their tracks of the containing rails attached to the seat. The one L slider on my car was twisted at the very rear section as noticed upon removal. This slider was jammed from sliding unimpeded due to the twist or rotational bend in this railing. There was no concern or change in any bolt alignment, just twisting the slider back to flat alignment as seen in the pictures.
    Hope this clarifies it for you,
    Len.
     
  6. Rifledriver

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    I was perfectly clear before. The rail simply cannot twist like that from use. Even improper use. I never indicated in any way that bolt holes did not align. A careful reading does not indicate that bolt holes did not align. It did indicate many had trouble aligning them to the degree the rails got pried upon to mount the seats.
    In other words a complete ****ing moron who should never been allowed the use of tools did it.
     
  7. Steve Magnusson

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    My first impression was that someone (strongly) tried to lift and remove the seat with the rear screw of that seat track still in place (and the other three screws removed) -- just a thought...
     
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  8. Rifledriver

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    I suppose thats possible but it looks like it had a very forceful lateral effort to twist and displace it. When the seat is in place the lower rail that bent has a good deal of support from the upper part. When the seat is in any normal position that is the case. When moved to the extreme front when removing or installing bolts it is out and unsupported enough the pictured bending can take place. As you well know most TR seats spend their lives in the rear half of the adjustment area.

    I have seen so many bolt one side down firmly the have trouble with the other side. Use a round prybar through the bolt holes and pry them into alignment. Looks like a severe case of that.
     
  9. Steve Magnusson

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    Yes, agree that that would only be with the seat in the (unnatural) full forward position (extending the bent end as far out as possible). Doesn't make sense to me why someone would do that -- unless in a crazed act of frustration ;).
     
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  10. Rifledriver

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    I quit trying to make sense of what people do a long time ago.
     
  11. Len Howell

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    I appreciate your reply, sorry for the misunderstanding. Drivers seat was difficult to move forward/backward prior to removal. The removal was simple, four bolts removed, and twisted rail appar
     
  12. Len Howell

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    Rail appeared upon inspection, indicated jamming. Seat re-installed and operation smooth.
     
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    Some people should never touch a vehicle!
     
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  14. Len Howell

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    OK, sorry I mentioned it, thought it might be helpful. Heck, just got the car recently and this was one of my first posts. Is there a test post somewhere before the Vultures begin to swarm?
     
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    Len, don't think that was a criticism of you!
     
  16. Rifledriver

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    I was factory trained on them in 1985 and have owned one for over 20 years. I was trying to share some very hard earned insight based on many years spent in Ferrari dealers and relating real life observations in the hopes it just might be of some benefit. . You misread my post and have taken offense. Maybe be less sensitive.
     
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    and some not even the steering wheel when I see how some are driving :(
     

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