Testarossa w/strips with black felt found

Yeah that would be great. An offcut a foot long would be good as the samples sent from the suppliers are generally only an inch or three.

A foot long would allow me to do some good back to back comparisons with the factory component and test some crush factor on the rubber.

Thanks.

 

BTW: I still need the suppliers details as I want to search their web site or get a catalog to see if they have a product that would suit my Pantera and a mates Mangusta as well.

Sorted. Thanks.

 

I've surfed around the net a lot, hoping to find our "holy grail" of weatherstrips - nope! I checked out Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Maserati....it looks like a few Alfas and Fiats used the same weatherstrip as Ferrari did on the TR. But from my search, it looks like the true OEM felt cloth covered weatherstrip is no longer available to anyone. If it were still available....then Ferrari would still be selling it. I wonder what the reason was for discontinuing the felt covered stuff? Another thing is...I've never actually heard who Ferrari's supplier was for the stuff.

I agree with Robert down in OZ about the DX71 profile - it will probably be about the best substitute we will find.

 

Dear Ferraristi,

Spasso....this wasn't about you at all....all water under the bridge with you and I as far as I'm concerned. We have both moved on and get along just fine now.

I was mainly pointing out that a thread with the best of intentions can take a far different path than intended.

Any mention of the "twistlock thread" in the future is to illustrate that what one sets out with is not necessarily what one ends up with.....like this door trim thread.

Opps....you can remove your foot from you mouth now.

Honestly, I expected to be patted on the back for finding a rare part instead of getting my butt kicked. I was personally surprised that the COST was the big factor and had everyone (not just you) up in arms.....as if I set the part price. This not what I expected from the Testarossa section.






Shamile

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Shamile

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Hi Robert, my sample came from:

http://automobiletrim.com/

Phil

 

10"-11" example left today for you. Let me know when it arrives please.

Kerry

 

If you don't need fuzzy try JC Whitney. $38.00 per 25ft roll.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/PUSH-ON_TRIM_WEATHERSTRIPS_FOR_DOORS_TRUNKS_WINDOWS?ID=12;0;0;0;100001;ProductName;0;0;0;0;2008597;0;0#
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Thanks Kerry.

Who's the Aussie guy? Someone from Adelaide?

I know most of the owners down here but there is always a new one arriving from the UK that I don't know of yet.

Out Ferrari Club database says there are 52 in the country.

I'll bet they didnt count me three times. LOL.

 

Thank you for clarifying that. I couldn't see any reason for you to keep bringing it up. Case in point would be the thread about removing airbox restrictions on 308's and installing shorter velocity stacks. The middle of that thread turned into a hot mess without due cause, (as far as I'm concerned). I see NO need to keep bringing THAT one up again because of the less than positive aspects of it (even though it had some GREAT information in it, much like this thread).

Which can be typical of most threads here.

Nope, the foot stays in, I just switch them out for the next round.

Fact of life, NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.

You might consider than many owners here are pretty mainstream and have worked their asses off to get where they are today, in short, "The wealthy don't get that way by spending their money foolishly".
COST? COST IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE, whether you can afford it or not. NOBODY likes to get ripped off, no matter how much money they have..

Shamile, you have done a good thing and it has fostered research and more palatable options to a problem all of us will have with our TR's.
In that respect, thank you.
DJ

 

I would actually prefer that it had black cloth weave rather than the fuzz. Easier to keep clean.

 

Is Robert trying this out?

 

No, not unless Phil can send me 71 and 84 and I'll do a back to back with Kerry's sample and the original.

It's my understanding that 71 and 84 are rubber only with no felt and no cloth but if Phil can send them and they work, then maybe that's the answer. We can all have rubber only so Shamile doesn't feel too special!

 

I must say, I don't get it! If the Kerry seal............seals and has felt like the OEM, and the 71/84 have the "proper" tube diameter and no felt.......what will the common veiwer much less the "judge" see.......Oh the diameter & shape is correct but no felt or the diameter is different and blah, blah, blah..........what am I missing? No dis here, just tryin' to figure out what is important.....the look and effectiveness or the dimension and effectiveness? No wise ass hear just a question...................

Stupid

 

I can live with "rubber only" if the configuration is as close to OEM as possible but I am hoping that one can be found with some sort of covering even if the covering isn't the OEM fuzzy felt.. The cloth would work for me. More durable.

To answer your question, It is more important to me that the configuration is correct and the the doors seal correctly as designed, fuzz or no fuzz. That is my "personal" preference, correct form and function over "look".

 

OK.............With or without the cloth/felt is not a concern...................So isn't the concern then, that it seals and does what the OEM did as far as "performance"? If so then what is the downfall to the felt covered aftermarket that Kerry is providing? If it seals and appears OEM...............?? Not trying to be an ass, just need some clarification!

Stupid

 

If we go back to the start of the thread, I had already started searching for an alternative down under. Then Robbie located and posted about the UK version that Kerry is now selling.

My initial input was based on UK samples that I had obtained locally and when tested and compared to a stock item, the crush and deformity of the seal when the door closed was not close enough to manufacturers product and /or intent.

So the continued hunt has been for a seal that not only looks factory (ish) with the flocking, but actually fits to the frame and deforms to the door edge as the factory one did.

I'm yet to try a sample that meets this criteria, with flocking or without.

Now, if I find that the Kerry sample does deform and fit as per factory, with door closed in particularly, then I will appraise it accordingly. If I find that 71/84 do the same, then ditto.

As Spasso says, it would be nice to get flocked or woven, but the primary issue here is for the seal to fit and deform to the door as well as the factory item does.

Given that the only factory seal available is the 512TR unit with no covering at all at $800.00, then if 71/84 work as well, there are substantial savings to be made and get the same look.

However, if after testing and analysis it appears that the UK seal with flocking performs better than 71/84 and near as well as the factory Testarossa item, then that's the way I expect we will all go.

 

As suggested I am quite happy to do this analysis as I have a 'spare' Testarossa sitting here in the shed, and I can easily whip the seals off and fit any/all samples to it.

For Phil to test and photograph this it may not be as simple and to do it properly, the entire seal needs to be removed and some clear, close up pictures need to be taken to show the seal deformity when the door is closed. This is best done when small sample sections are fitted to various positions along the seam edge and the door fully closed rather than trying to di it with the factory rubber partially removed and then the door cant be closed.

 

As said in posts 194, 195 and 196. these are my concerns.
If the DX71 profile (or 84) is just like the OEM 512TR pieces, (both have no covering), then it would seem to me that this would be the answer. All that's left is a fit check.

 

I am quite convinced that the sample (red flock I post pictures of a while back) will seal adequately all round the door.

My old seal that has been flattend is no where near as good as the red flock replacement IMO. Although an original replacement may be a better seal

P

 

You are correct!

 

Dear Ferraristi,

Ok....I'll try to answer....


The only reason I went with the 512TR seal was strictly for the performance. I too wanted the OEM Testarossa seal with the fuzzy cloth.

The 512 TR seal is EXACTLY the same size seal as the Testarossa seal but without the fuzzy cloth covering. It will close the door properly. I think I've had the seals for about 3 years now. No warping or uneven squashing ( see photo with Jen....LOOK AT THE SEAL THIS TIME )

The problem with the Kerry seal is that (with empirical research from Uzz ) is the round rubber is too large/ not right shape and squashes / seals improperly.

Over time, you will have the door impression line and uneven rounded roll of the seal where it squashes up and in or down and out. For now, the seal being new will not have memory and will look great when the door is opened. Given a year or two, the seal will look all wavy with lines in it eventually.

This is EXACTLY why I went for the overly expensive OEM 512TR seals.

It appears correct....for now.....won't stay that way over time. If you look closely at your passenger side photo at the corner where the door seal runs just past the seal belt, you can see a line starting to develop. If you leave your door open, the line will disappear as the seal is new. When memory starts to step in, that line will be permanent.


BTW, it's nice to see all the "usual suspects" chiming in without all the yelling and flying accusations. See, we are all Testarossa owners afterall.....FREEZE....MIAMI VICE !


Shamile

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