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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Napolis, Mar 17, 2008.

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  1. Kingair33

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    #26 Kingair33, Mar 17, 2008
    Jim, thanks for sharing your unbelievable opportunity with us! All the best.
     
  2. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #27 Napolis, Mar 17, 2008
    The reason is that for 40 years she basically sat in a Museum and was trucked to a few shows. We took her completely apart but simply cleaned her rather than repainted/remade various parts that had worn out as 40 years of road/racing use will cause to happen. As she wasn't subjected to that use she really is as she was manufactured not as she was restored. We've documented the cleaning with a huge number of photo's as well as the Art Cleaning Techniques/Process we followed and will publish it all so people can see what I mean. She has her original mufflers as she was a "Street" Show car and her engine is still in Le Mans tune. We have done a few things to make her more street able, new tires for example, but all of these things can and will be put back for concourses and we didn't drill any holes but made clip on brackets to hold the fire system controls for example. We added a removable air cleaner as I do plan to drive her on the Historic Targa Florio but when she's on the Lawn she will be as she was manufactured 40 years ago. As all of this was done by Pininfarina, her original manufacturer, before delivery to me I think it's fair to say she's as close to a 100 point Car as it gets.
     
  3. michael bayer

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    #28 michael bayer, Mar 17, 2008
    Jim: Bravo, bravo, bravo! Would that there were only more of you. Michael
     
  4. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #29 Napolis, Mar 17, 2008
    Thanks. Believe me I know how lucky all of us are.

    Best
     
  5. Gary GT

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    #30 Gary GT, Mar 17, 2008
    Congrats Jim! The "Yellow Dino" moniker seems to fit rather well by the looks of her. I'll be interested to see what the wind tunnel tests reveal. Truly art on four wheels!

    Gary
     
  6. VIZSLA

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    #31 VIZSLA, Mar 17, 2008
    Its great to see such a car starting a new life in such good hands.
     
  7. Peloton25

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    #32 Peloton25, Mar 18, 2008
    What a lucky car to have waited forty years to find the right owner. :)

    I can't wait for the road test review once you get her home and find time to get comfortable behind the wheel.

    Congrats again Mr G!

    >8^)
    ER
     
  8. JazzyO

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    #33 JazzyO, Mar 18, 2008
    Beautiful car, Jim, congratulations.

    Malcom McDowell, 1971.


    Onno
     
  9. Jeff Kennedy

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    #34 Jeff Kennedy, Mar 18, 2008
    Jim,

    It will be interesting to see what judging score it does get. I agree that it is 100 points based upon the definition of originality but I suspect there will be arguments about meaningless details as it get judged against something that just finished a high level ground-up restoration. Are you planning on having it judged at one of the events?

    A serious question: Has any of the surface deteriorated over time? Pf and Scaglietti both used surface fillers (can't remember the trade name) that was applied over the formed surfaces to get the final smooth surface. This material has not always been completely stable over a long number of years.

    A second serious question: How much side to side variation have you been able to detect on the body? As a hand formed body the left and right sides are prone to have variation; sometime fairly pronounced. When you have the wind tunnel testing done you might want to see if they will do a full digitizing of the surface. You can get displays to see the actual surface lines and how the shapes mutate.

    Jeff
     
  10. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #35 Napolis, Mar 18, 2008
    The surface and original paint all seem excellent. If you measure there is definitely side to side variation. While I will have her judged I'm really more interested in enabling people to see what an original Ferrari really looks like. She is shaking off her sleep and heading out into the World. Her first stop will be at The Bahrain GP. The Sun will do her good.
     
  11. of2worlds

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    #36 of2worlds, Mar 18, 2008
    What an amazing coup to pry this car loose after all these years! Then to have the makers ensure with much detailed work that it is once again in fine form after a very long hibernation. There seems to be only modest appreciation here of what you have achieved in orchestrating all of this...
    Can you share a picture of the steering wheel and instrument cluster in front of the driver? Thanks
    CH
     
  12. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #37 Napolis, Mar 18, 2008
    The steering wheel is mounted on a tilt that makes it easier to climb in. In front of the driver is a Tach.

    Will snap a photo when I'm with her again.
     
  13. of2worlds

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    #38 of2worlds, Mar 18, 2008
    Something to look forward to. Thanks for the details!
    CH
     
  14. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #39 Napolis, Mar 18, 2008
  15. Bryanp

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    #40 Bryanp, Mar 18, 2008
    I don't see how this car could not be a 100 point car by the clear meaning of the rules. It's like judging a 2008 340; this car just left the factory and hasn't been touched other than fluids and safety issues. It's an interesting hypothetical - yet real!

    Of course there's always Jim's dashboard Jesus . . . . . that's probably worth a point

    Get Shaughnessy to send you his dashboard hula girl, with original wrapper.
     
  16. Peloton25

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    #41 Peloton25, Mar 18, 2008
    Jim - I know you pride yourself on actually using your prized automotive possessions more than most would, but do you anticipate any change in that behavior with this one given this car's unique level of originality?

    I'd also love to see a shot of this car next to a production Dino (anyone have one in their files?) or maybe even a Lotus Elise for size comparison purposes.

    Thanks!

    >8^)
    ER
     
  17. Napolis

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    #42 Napolis, Mar 18, 2008
    I don't plan on driving her in the snow...
     
  18. DennisForza

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    #43 DennisForza, Mar 18, 2008
    It would be kind of cool to see her with skis up front, a bit Italian Bondish....
    :D
     
  19. Tinbender

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    #44 Tinbender, Mar 18, 2008
    The dashboard hula girl has escaped the confines of the Shaughnessy Estate.
     
  20. GPofItaly

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    #45 GPofItaly, Mar 18, 2008
    it was a great surprise to cross into you at the hotel in Torino last Saturday; and an even greater pleasure to hear of your plan for the day with the Dino Competizione. I remember driving her at Cambiano several years ago and I am now eager to see her back to the daylight of Villa D'Este. I did not join you at Balocco to be fair to Paolo and to the Pininfarina company, although it would have been a fantastic scoop to be there. I hope you understand the reasons why I could not share your enthusiasm that day and declined your invitation.
    One question: when did you acquire this jewel? Was that before the P4/5 project, as I understand?
    Viva il tuo amore per le auto più belle! Ciao.
    Giancarlo
     
  21. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #46 Napolis, Mar 18, 2008
    Hi

    Great to see you as well. I totally understand. I persuaded PF to sell her to me last June long after P 4/5 was finished.

    Best
     
  22. kvisser

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    #47 kvisser, Mar 18, 2008
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    Do you mean this dashboard hula girl? She was spotted in the confines of 57 Tour de France recently.

    regards

    ken
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  23. epdowd

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    #48 epdowd, Mar 19, 2008
    I don't think we ever got a confirmation on which "Hallowed Ground" it was tested on. Having only seen Ferrari's test track from the overpass, I cannot say I recognize the photos. Though the highway exit does look familiar....
     
  24. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #49 Napolis, Mar 19, 2008
    Balocco.
     
  25. thecarreaper

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    #50 thecarreaper, Mar 19, 2008
    bella, love the Dino!
     
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