Texas CHL: Open carry opinions

You probably knew I would have an opinion while respecting yours and mine is not personal just another opinion. I did not get my CHL until '07 but I did become a LEO and I still hold and maintain my license (not that it has anything to do with this topic of discussion) so...

Yet a displayed firearm could possibly eliminate any or all wrong doings and save lives before the situation went wrong but we both know thieves are as "dumb as the day is long".

You do realize that commissioned LEO's when "off duty" open carry their firearm or conceal it and their badge?

This is a huge concern for everyone and is why we, not just TX, need to find a way to weed these people out. I am not sure but it weighs on my mind heavily just like you and many others.

So I assume you went to college, should we all bow down?, thus you place yourself on a higher pedestal mentally and emotionally over a huge percentage of the population? How do I or we know YOU would not be the first one to pull your CHL weapon in a heated argument when no other weapons were involved? Please do not use that idiot from HD as a true representative of CHL holders.

 

Easiest way to weed them out? How about a $24,000 yearly fee. Cash/Check only. Money is all put together in a fund for medical expenses for victims of gun-related offenses. The people who could afford it are (in theory) too logical to find the ends worth the means.

Anyone who wants to carry openly can do so knowing that they could have made the lease payment on a 911 for that price. There are plenty of other ways $2,000 a month can give you the same feeling of safety/superiority/whatever someone seeks to feel by openly carrying.

 

Open carry is not my cup of tea. Nothing wrong with others exercising their right however. It is nice to also have the law as a "backup" in the event of a failure to properly conceal. Some CHL holders may be idiots and go after it for the wrong reasons but they still have the same rights as the rest of us, they will also suffer the consequences of any idiotic actions.

Your first and only post in 2 years is an absurd anti-gun unrealistic post. Cool.

 

IMO guns are like wangs. Keep em in your pants. Only pull them out and show them if you intend to use them.

 

I do not think there is a right or wrong answer to open or concealed carry. Last year the concealed law in TX eased up in that if a barrel or barrel/holster extends beyond the shirt line or the weapon makes a noticeable outline it is no longer breaking the law. I want people to have a choice and if they prefer concealed vs open carry they have that choice and should not be crapped on for their decision. We should not be arguing amongst ourselves but should be fighting those who are trying to take away our 2nd Amendment rights.

 

The 2nd Amendment does not specify or give the exclusive power to carry concealed.

However, I think that is a capability that should be decided on a local (state) basis.

If a state chooses to allow concealed carry - then it should be legal.

Having said that, I think there should be a demonstrated need, and accompanied with a lot more training/education than CHL currently requires. I don't think this would infringe on the 2nd, as it doesn't restrict you from "bearing" (open carry) arms.


Sid

 

Its too early for me to discuss this comment.

 

I see what you did there. You used concealed as an exclusion yet is a Militia determined by numbers such as a conspiracy?

Add "open carry".

A need to arm yourself against a society who values street cred or money over being a productive part of society?

As a side note I am often without a firearm BUT I am never unarmed, or unaware of my surroundings, food for thought.

 

Ah, another college-educated elitist fool... only someone with a college degree could possibly have the smarts enough to ____________.

.... a college degree only proves that one can attend classes, do a modicum of required "stuffs" and end up with a degree. BFD.....

Worked with far far far too many people - on five continents - with ZERO degrees that were the most professional - and capable - people I've ever worked with - and worked with way too many fools with a degree that really thought they were something....

Now, before you blow your elitist stack: I have multiple degrees from Northwestern, Syracuse, and Texas A&M - carried a 3.8 through all three schools while working - but I could hit my ass with both hands long before I got a piece of paper to prove I could do what I already knew how....

 

You're right. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

What is to be taken seriously is any human under duress, threat, stress, or the influence of medications. Giving said person access to weapons for defense is one thing, but giving them open carry is providing people the ability to flaunt it and say "I can kill you". There is no defensible argument for how Open Carry makes anything safer than normal concealed weapons do. The type of person that would want to open carry wants a feeling of superiority. Most of these people are insecure and feel the need to step over others. Said person can take something that wasn't even directed at them and find a way to make it personal and feel offended enough to push back unprovoked.

Kind of like what you just did with your post, except on a more serious, life-threatening scale.

 

I have spent a lot of time in states with open carry laws. It is almost never done. I expect a few early on because they can but after a year or so most will stop except in rural environments.

Personally I think open carry is dumb as a practice but I'm not against the law allowing it.
In case it wasn't noticed, open carry has nothing to do with safer. It's about the restoration of a basic right that was improperly coopted by government.