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The AAD Photo thread - Photoshop NOT allowed!

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  1. Jedi

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    #1 Jedi, Feb 17, 2011
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    This is the "Analog, Analog, Digital" photo thread. This thread is for us old enough to have done analog photography,
    and/or purists of the fine art that photography once was. AAD means "Analog negative,
    Analog print, and Digital scan for posting"... in other words, NO DIGITAL ORIGINALS ARE ALLOWED.

    The rules:

    1. Photo MUST be on an analog negative or positive medium
    2. Print MUST be printed using "old school" analog techniques (ENLARGER ON PAPER!)
    3. ABSOLUTELY ZERO digital "effects" allowed!!!! PERIOD!!!! No exceptions.
    4. Digital "dust spotting" IS allowed ... sometimes scans gather dust spots.


    In other words, if you SHOT A PICTURE WITH A DIGITAL CAMERA DO NOT POST IT HERE!!!!

    This thread is for ANALOG, ANALOG, DIGITAL ONLY. Don't mess with the Jedi on this....

    Lastly, this is NOT A CONTEST! It's a forum for those of us who've done THOUSANDS of
    "analog" images over the decades... to give a nod to the CRAFT that once was photography,
    before the age of Photo Shop.

    So post on.... I'll start off with a few of my own - I have many THOUSANDS, but alas
    not that many have been scanned. I'll add more over time, as I get to them.


    Clear? Ok... start posting, analog fans!




    Here's me - age 26, Mt. Rainier National Park - March, 1986. My good friend and
    photographer assistant Brian McKenna and I were up very early to catch sunrise
    on the mountain. This is near the end of the day. Photo by Brian, using my
    Hasselblad 500C & processed in my darkroom - Plus-X 100, D76, Silver bromide print.
    The camera next to me is the Omega 45-D 4x5 view camera mentioned in the following,
    and a great many other, photos I made during this era.

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    Apartment 12 - abandoned apartment building in downtown Tacoma, WA. ca. 1986
    This apartment had been last occupied in the late 70s and boarded up ever since.
    Mamiyaflex 220 camera, Plus-X 100, D76, Silver Bromide... part of a large series of
    abandoned buildings in the city at the time.

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    Catholic Church - Wilkinson, WA - ca. 1992... Wilkinson was a mining town in the
    late 1800s and to this day is very very rural and isolated. This church is used every
    Sunday, and has since the time it was founded. Omega 45-D 4x5 View Camera, Plus-X,
    D76, printed on Brovira & selenium toned.

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    Wilkinson Church, this time using Infrared 4x5 film on the Omega 45-D camera,
    processed in D76, printed on hand-silvered, hand made paper....

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    Log and Stream - ca. 1985 - Carbon River, Mt. Rainier National Park. Omega 45-D View
    camera, 4x5 Plus-X, D76, Brovira print. 8 second exposure at sunrise to blur water.

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    Bride With Doll... part of a series I did over a year, using this same creepy doll
    in a variety of situations. This particular bride was kind of creepy herself, and
    just seemed PERFECT, and she agreed to do the photo, moments after this shot I had
    to shoot her wedding in full color and "wedding bliss".... the austere location was
    an antiquated mansion that was used for weddings. Mamiyaflex 220, Plus-X,
    D76, standard silver print.

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    That's it for now... I have a LOT of black and white, as well as color slide (E6 mostly)
    images from the last 25 years. I'll post more if this thread takes any wings. Otherwise,
    we'll just let it die.

    Have fun, fellow AAD photog fans....

    :)

    Jedi
     
  2. Zahiba

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    Love the thread idea Jedi, I just wish I had digital copies of my 35mm/pinhole work.
     
  3. agup48

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    Way cool Pops, just goes to show how much of an old fart you are ;):):)

    ♥ :p
     
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    I was Told That My Great Grandfather used a Film Camera...


    When he was a kid....


    Nice Antique Shots you have There!








    jus Kidding!
     
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    #5 DIGMAN52, Feb 18, 2011
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    Here are some from my early photgraphy days in the late 60's. Shot with my dad's Leica M3 Rangefinder.

    The first few are from an SMU Homecoming event, where I got down on the field. Bob Hope was a big supporter of the School of Arts there, and visited many times.

    The next are from the Byron Nelson Tournament Pro-Am day with Hope, Gerry Ford and
    Lord Byron.

    Had a buddy down the street that would develop B & W 8x10's for 10cents.
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    That's a cool picture... one of those "what is she thinking?", "what is she looking at and
    smiling about?" sorts. I like it.

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    #9 tifosi12, Feb 18, 2011
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    Cool thread. I'm gonna have some fun with this (sitting on like 20,000 AADs :)).

    Although quite frankly I don't get the differentiation to digital photography: ANY kind of fotography is done with technology. It's not like we used to paint these images.


    ...or did we? Here 3 shots:

    - the oldest I possess from our family: It shows my Great Grandfather and my Grandfather. The (unknown) artist painted over the image around the persons. The picture is well over 100 years old I'm guessing.

    - the first picture I ever took. Fittingly enough again my Grandfather.

    - the last analog picture I took. Fittingly depicting another technological dinosaur of its time: Saturn V
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  9. Jedi

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    It's simply Analog vs. Digital. There are a thousand web sites you can use now to
    turn an ordinary image into something out of this world. In the analog world, sure
    there were manipulations - double exposure, posterization, toning, emulsion distortion
    (Poloroid prints), sepia, long exposure blur, etc. etc. etc. But they were ANALOG
    techniques, and most of them were "one off" - it might have taken 15 wasted prints
    to get an "effect" correct. There was no "undo" button!

    IMO, the differences are SIGNIFICANT.

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    Love the Marlboro shot. I have something somewhat similar. Will dig it out tomorrow.
     
  11. Jedi

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    Nice shots! I love wide angle.... always been my favorite perspective. I used
    24mm and 28mm on my 35mm cameras, and have an old Russian medium-format
    67x67mm beast of a camera that has the equivalent of 18mm were it a 35 format.
    Any Silvers here that remember my "pix of where you got hitched" thread of the
    mansion with the 3000-pipe organ in it, the wide angles from the balcony were
    shot with that Russian camera.

    Even today, my fave lens for my D40X is 18mm... but I'm hoping to add a 10-55 zoom soon.

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    Yes, the differences are significant, but that's a good thing. And quite frankly most of the people out there still don't know how to take a picture. And for those who do know, the possibilities got just endlessly better.

    I used to dink around trying to crop shoots etc. I had so many ideas but not the technical ability. Now I do.
     
  13. Jedi

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    Very true. Yes, it was HARD to learn analog film techniques. EVERYTHING was exacting,
    from exposure (I learned on a K1000 fully-manual, then on to a Hassy 500c manual), to
    film development (especially if you dabbled in E6 and C41), to the "performance of
    the negative" as Ansel Adams called it, the print. And that was just a NORMAL photo.
    Add complex stuff like posterization, IR Film (VERY hard to work with), and it takes
    MONTHS to perfect a technique. I was a "Zone System" afficianado and that method
    of exposure / development / printing took YEARS to perfect.

    With modern digital, pretty much anyone can turn out decent work - then add the fancy
    web sites and editing tools and the results can be amazing.

    But it's not the same... at ALL

    :)

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  14. Jedi

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    Very cool pix... I tried my hand at "hand coloring" back in the day - it's HARD! Whoever
    did that portrait was probably a professional "colorist"... I love the look of that technique.

    What payload was being launched on the Saturn V?

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  15. Jedi

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    Where'd the pictures go??? I'm confused.... :confused:

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    #18 iamthesimpleone, Feb 18, 2011
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    I've always been a fan of the wide angle. Paints more of a picture. The longest lens i own is a 105 f 2.5 and that hasn't even been on my camera in several years.

    first two pics taken with a nikkor 16mm fisheye, third one 55mm macro.

    to Jedi:

    I didnt know Omega made cameras. My dad has an old enlarger from them that I keep telling myself I'm going to set up, but have yet to find the time/energy to do so

    -ben

    the camera i use:
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    Yup. When I got into large format 4x5, I started with a couple old Speed Graphics as
    I slowly acquired film holders (and skill!). I shot a LOT of weddings in the 80s and
    used the SG for the "B&W" newspaper photo. Then I discovered Ansel Adams and
    the Zone System, and the only 4x5 view camera I could afford was the Omega 45D.
    Body was like $300, and the Fujinon 210 shutter/lens/lensboard was $250 more, plus
    the Bogen 3030 tripod. I made my own dark cloth (stitched it myself!!)... that was a
    LOT of bux for a weekend wedding photog with a full-time day job.

    I believe the Omega Enlarger folks were a different company.... for my 4x5 work I
    used a 1940s "Solar" brand enlarger with a GIGANTIC condenser. Worked very well,
    with very even light. I miss that old enlarger....

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    Saturn V was our moon rocket. The one on the picture is a replica in Huntsville. It is hollow inside but correct in size.
     
  19. Jedi

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    Gotcha. For some reason I thought the V was used for other payloads too....

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    The last Saturn V launched the Skylab
     
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    Great shots everyone!! I might have a few old ones lying around somewhere. Don't have any of them scanned though so maybe I'll try to get some in.
     
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    #25 Jedi, Feb 19, 2011
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    Here's a few more... this time in color. These are from April 2002, of rocker Joe
    Walsh for a magazine cover (plus a 7000 word interview article I wrote). The
    shots had to be 100 ISO E6 slides (digital just wasn't good enough then). Joe
    was wearing a bright white shirt, and I had to ask him to change to get "black
    space" for the cover text. I took shots all through the house and studio, all done
    with tripod and multiple lights. But the magazine went with the single hand-held
    shot of the lot - the one under the Collins wall light. It wasn't my first choice,
    but hey - I got the cover regardless :)
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