The accountant & his refusal to perform a belt service. “It’s a fraud”

In the v8 foru.m, talking about 355s, you meant v12's?

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You don't have it quite right. I started by asking a simple question based on previous posts in the thread. And I was referring to V12s, he responded in regard to the V8s. Simple mix up. Turns out there are two different recommendations - per Rifledriver and FBB...see above. I did not know that.

 

I assumed that they were all the same. My bad. Now YOU want to go after me?

 

No, not at all. I'm just trying to understand your position. What you say makes sense.
Carful with assumptions, I suppose.
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Thank you for your input.

I love how people around "act" like they know their stuff, then when asked to back up their claims they go on the attack.

 

Insecure much? You made two outrageous claims...and all I did was ask you to prove it, because you said you were "pretty sure". And when I fight fire with fire (I simply copied your "ummm" comment) you call me disrespectful. Pot calling the kettle black? Rather than back up what you said, this is your response...I rest my case.

Even when you were proven wrong by a member here who spent more hours in Maranello than you have driving your Ferrari.....

 

JonnyRay, this is for you...

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It sounds like you are just not capable of thinking like an intelligent person. If you want, I will follow you around and give you advice to help you not make such stupid statements. My fee is $15/hr, but it is well worth it. I don't think you understand how much money my advice could be saving you. For example, did you know that if a Nigerian asks for your social security number, he is not just getting to know you? He actually wants it to steal your identity. I am full of useful advice like this. Please consider.

 

You speak and act like you are worth $15/hour...

 

I've been confused since I bought my 308. The owner's manual says inspect every 15k miles, replace at 52,500. No mention of time. But wait. There's another pullout stuff in the front cover that says, " Replace timing belts (every 21,750 to 28,000 miles or 24 months maximum)." My F355 owner's manual say 30,000 miles, no time specified. Furthermore, the 355 timing belt inspection and replacement intervals are all marked with an asterisk which, as stated in the manual, "marked operations: these are not foreseen on test vehicles, but are recommended on in-use vehicles if they are frequently driven either in unusual traffic conditions or in dusty and/or sandy roads." Whatever that means.

IMO, FChat and most of what Ferrari says in there manuals is a joke.

 

I am...it's a bargain...so you are accepting my offer? When shall I start?

And, my rates are congruent with the person I am serving

 

I should. That money could go a long way toward treating your mental illness. And, I am profoundly sorry it has caused you to be so pedantic and mean spirited.

 

And when you are presented with facts, you have no other comeback other than....well....here you go (this is advice is on the house, keep the $15)


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For somebody who lists your occupation as "higher education" you come across as a crass *********. 3 day ban for personal attacks and profanity filter violations. Note to Mr. Scholar AceMaster: Read the forum rules as closely as you read TSBs.

 

The prior timing belt TSB was dated August 1984. It is not a topic often addressed. Since Ferrari no longer uses timing belts I do not expect to see anymore TSBs on the topic.

 

I only trust Johnk to do my belts.

 

I'm booked until 2035.

 

Apparently, ferrari engineers got tired of reading timing belt debates on fchat.

I read on a Facebook forum the new gear driven timing systems are actually belt driven behind them. So when they fail, ferrari makes money. No surprise, the internal timing belts are engineered with a little razor that pops out 6 months after warranty and shears the belt. Timing belts are not gone. they just pushed them underground. We have ferrari chat to thank for that, or so I read. It was on the Facebook machine, so you know it's true.
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A little levity to break the tension here.[emoji3]

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When my waist went from 33" to 34", I had to change belts and mileage and track usage had nothing to do to with it!

 

There is actually a GM motor in production that uses a rubber gilmer belt internally. I think it drives the oil pump.

Guess what....it breaks too.

 

Is there a technical reason why Ferrari doesn’t use value stops to prevent values from dropping into the engine? I think Toyota uses them. Do value stops hurt high revs?




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Value stop? Or maybe you meant Valve stop? I have no idea what that is.

 

Obviously I don’t know what I’m talking about. Some years ago I asked a Toyota mechanic about valves dropping when a belt broke. My Toyota Highlander had rubber belts with a 75k life. The mechanic said the car had some kind of stops that kept a value from hitting a piston. He also said all Japanese cars had this. He didn’t know why Ferrari didn’t. Maybe it has something to do with high revving engines? A 360 clearly has a higher red line than a Toyota.


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