The ACO got it wrong again at Le Mans

Hello photos of Ferrari of the preliminary tries(essays) of Le Mans






The next photos will come from Belgium " Spa"

 

I have really no idea what you are talking about. There actually is tons of GT racing to be seen at Le Mans. That is a fact. Why would you wan´t to dispute that fact merely because there are also some prototypes running around. Prototypes that have and will always be a part of Le Mans by the way.

Besides, PLEASE, don´t even for a minute have the pretention to speak for all of us. There is no ´we´.

I DO want to see prototype racing.

 

Like the FIA is ´promoting´ the 2,4 litres V8´s right now? Really?

 

Well, geez, thanks. I feel flattered. Jim seems to think the post had some merit and he knows a thing or two about endurance racing. Don´t take my word for it.

Maybe the author should have read the ACO rulebook before making a fool of himself by claiming that Diesels aren't favoured at Le Mans !

The rules are the same for everybody. If, within a certain set of rules, diesels prove to be the way to go, than they are obviously superior to the petrolengines. That in itself is not a problem. Every competitor is entitled to their own diesel engine. If they want a decent shot at winning that is.

Within a certain set of rules there will always emerge at least one technical configuration that proves to be the most effective, within those rules.

If you want to argue that these particular rules favour dieselengined cars on that ground, then you could be right, but what you should be asking yourself is: is that a problem? That is only a problem if you have a particulier objection against diesels. I don´t. Sure, they sound not nearly as exciting, but Le Mans isn´t a soundfestival.

Your boxing analogy therefor doesn´t hold any weight. No one is forcing the petrolengine to take on a dieselengine. They can choose not to take part (which problably would be a better way to make ACO move in another direction regulation wise) or bring their own dieselengine. Any fight in which you are free to choose your own weapons according to the same rules as your competitor, is therefor a fair fight. Just make sure you bring the appropriate weapon, but that isn´t the responsibility of ACO.

Again, as stated above. Any one who complains, should either walk away or bring their own dieselengine.

 

I don't agree with either of your posts.
I if I say WE I mean WE. I post whatever I want to say about the ACO and their stupid rules. People do not need to agree with my opinion. I respect your opinion.

 

Sure, but the question whether or not Le Mans provides top GT racing is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of FACT. So there you go.

Besides, I still don´t know who ´we´ are and who made you their spokesperson.

 

Now Vitaphone / Triple X left FIA GT1..........what is left of it? A few cars! Dead end?
I would like to see GT1 as fastest class in endurance racing (Sebring, Daytona, Le Mans).

 

So the 330/365/412P cars, 512S/M, 312P(B) et all, aren´t really your cup of tea either?

Which is by the way fine with me, but you don´t get that much on Fchat.

 

"you" is that me? Did I write something about those old Ferrari P cars?

You talk BS!

 

No, it is the 'you' in the general sense of the word.

No and that is exactly why I am asking. If you want GT1 to be the fastest category at Le Mans I assume that you want to eleminate prototypes alltogether, since a GT car will never be quicker than a prototype. So I think that pretty much justifies my question.

It is an honest question by the way. I don't care if you want prototypes out of endurance racing. It just seems an odd point of view, especially in historical terms.

thanks!

 

I would love to see supercars race: Enzo, veyron, CGT, 599 gto, koenigsegg, etc. Cars like this should make up GT1 and then cars like porsche GT2, 458, 430, gallardo, SLS should be GT2, then cars like the BMW m3 should be GT3. Then allow cars from lower categories like gt3 to tune up to higher categories.

While this sounds logical to me, I don't know all of the restrictions and costs involved. Can someone explain to me what prevents us from getting fields like the ones I mentioned above in the le mans series and alms? I know they already have a great showing of gt2 cars but why the lack of supercars? Costs?

Why did they stop the GT1 cars from the mid to late 90s? Those were some of the most exciting fields ever!

 

lol how is 2000cc and 3700cc the same? Besides I think its not only displacement but also turbo pressure etc.

I am pretty sure unrestricted 2000cc petrol would eat 3700cc unrestricted diesel in any endurance..

So diesels arent and were never supposed to be raced, your statement that diesel is better for endurance is utterly stupid. They could make the rules in F1 tomorrow that allow diesels to have 8 liter turbocharged engines against V8 2.4 atmo petrols and then you would say "OK you see diesels are the best for F1"