The Begining of a revolution in Energy | FerrariChat

The Begining of a revolution in Energy

Discussion in 'Other Off Topic Forum' started by WILLIAM H, May 17, 2005.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. WILLIAM H

    WILLIAM H Three Time F1 World Champ

    Nov 1, 2003
    35,532
    Victory Circle
    Full Name:
    HUBBSTER
    This is for all the guys who think my obsession with space technology is crazy :) NASA has announced a $400k prize for the development of energy beam technology. This of course would be used to beam free energy from giant solar panels in orbit down to Earth. Once a few of these giant multi acre solar panels are in orbit it will help us ween ourselves off the Middle Eastern & OPEC

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7280483/
     
  2. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

    Dec 4, 2004
    14,425
    FL

    I don't see why you would need the solar panels in space. You could use a lot of mirrors in space (like the one from Die Another Day) and just point all the light down do a field of solar panels on earth or to a body of water to heat and use energy from that.
     
  3. jim03

    jim03 Karting

    Mar 8, 2005
    50
    Texas
    Wouldn't reflecting more sunlight onto a body of water create an unnatural amount of moisture on the planet resulting in a a rise of humidity; thereby, in essence directly warming the temperature of the earth rather waiting for "global warming." As for reflecting sunlight onto a field of solar panels with mirrors, or rather lenses, so that the light could be focused into a concentrated beam to contact the panels, but if panels were also constructed around the lense the light that is not refracted is also captured.
    Which leaves only the problem of transmitting the collected energy to earth, is that possible?
     
  4. jim03

    jim03 Karting

    Mar 8, 2005
    50
    Texas
    So I now realize that by refracting light in a concentrated beam, that is a laser..... bad. Just too many bad possibilities.
     
  5. jsa330

    jsa330 F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    10,046
    75225
    Full Name:
    Scott
     
  6. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

    Dec 4, 2004
    14,425
    FL
    From the article:

    I don't think we should send signals anymore specifically to contact alien lifeforms, too. You never know if it can turn around and bite you in the butt.
     
  7. RacerX_GTO

    RacerX_GTO F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Nov 2, 2003
    14,746
    Oregon
    Full Name:
    Gabe V.
    I see a dual purpose tech gadget here... cool, it makes power and oh by the way, it's a weapon too.

    Everything concentrated into a narrow beam frys anything that gets into its path. Ever see what happens to a bird when it gets too close to a military dish on a communications trailer? "Phhhhzzzzzzzzzt" and the feathers flutter down to the ground. A year or so back, look what happened to that test missile that got in the way of the laser beam designed to cut objects from far away. That idea was soo cool, that the Air Force is sticking two of those things inside of a 747 with a custom nose job.

    Science is very fascinating, but I see good and bad things to come.
     
  8. WILLIAM H

    WILLIAM H Three Time F1 World Champ

    Nov 1, 2003
    35,532
    Victory Circle
    Full Name:
    HUBBSTER
     
  9. WILLIAM H

    WILLIAM H Three Time F1 World Champ

    Nov 1, 2003
    35,532
    Victory Circle
    Full Name:
    HUBBSTER
    Reasons for solar panels in space Night, rain, clouds, bird droppings, dust storms, terrorists, + we need the real estate for forests, housing & agriculture
     
  10. WILLIAM H

    WILLIAM H Three Time F1 World Champ

    Nov 1, 2003
    35,532
    Victory Circle
    Full Name:
    HUBBSTER
    I wouldnt worry much about that. Any civilization that conquered interstellar travel must also be Very good at robotics so they dont need us for slaves + if you are already in space it makes a lot more sense to mine asteroids & low gravity planets like the Moon. Escaping a deep gravity well like Earth would be expensive & pointless
     
  11. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

    Dec 4, 2004
    14,425
    FL
    Maybe for energy transfer between ships in a vacuum using radiation could be the best, like microwaves. I think gamma radiation from radioactive isotopes would be a good idea, too, if it is done in a safe manner of course.

    The problem with sending light to earth is just like William said. The rain/clouds/etc can refract light (using the mirror idea) in many directions and cause a lot of damage. I don't think anything like that will be possible unless it's at one of the polar caps where no one really lives there and the skies are somewhat clear.
     
  12. WILLIAM H

    WILLIAM H Three Time F1 World Champ

    Nov 1, 2003
    35,532
    Victory Circle
    Full Name:
    HUBBSTER

    great idea, use Antarctica since the Ozone layer is already gone there anyways
     
  13. DGS

    DGS Seven Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    May 27, 2003
    71,759
    MidTN
    Full Name:
    DGS
    From the article, it doesn't look like NASA is ready to compete with power companies, yet. It sounds like they're looking to send ground power to a system using it to climb a space elevator, or to relay power on Mars.

    The "giggle factor" is the notion that NASA thinks they're ever going to get funding to do anything with Mars except throw Tonka Toys at it, or funds to build an orbital infrastructure. That pork barrel doesn't feed enough hogs.

    Seen the ads for "Descent"? Great premise: The sky is falling, let's crawl into a hole. :rolleyes:

    I doubt NASA could find an "acceptable" "power beam" to get space energy back to earth. Heck, people are afraid of 60 cycle power lines -- and there are peepil actively campaining to blame power companies for cancer (and bad karma).

    There is no politically correct technology in a dark age.

    "To Serve Man": It's a cookbook!!!! :D
     
  14. jsa330

    jsa330 F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    10,046
    75225
    Full Name:
    Scott
    William, I don't know about that...Remember the "Alien Nation" TV show from the late 80's? Klingons and Romulans could prove troublesome as well...We need an isolationist policy for the solar system.
     
  15. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa

    Jul 20, 2003
    52,410
    SFPD
    Full Name:
    Dirty Harry
    Finally, I can put all these old AOL CD's to good use.
     

Share This Page