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  1. tomgt

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    #51 tomgt, Sep 27, 2016
    He still has the 430GT2 as well :)

    Spoke with a few engineers: Le Mans is politics only.
    Give the ACO a big cheque (Dearborn) and you can run four cars.
    "Good for the fans to see a new GT manufacturer"
    And all were talking about: sand bagging by Ford
    (And not only the Ferrari engineers...but Stuttgart and Detroit as well)
    ACO is like the FIFA or ASO = money machines
     
  2. tomgt

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    #52 tomgt, Sep 27, 2016
    Yes :)
    LMP3 ~230k euro
    Just a cheaper LMP2 but still carbon tub, carbon/kevlar body parts and a V8 engine.
    Ferrari is now on same price level as the GT1 in 2003/2004.
    ACO/WEC should stop this imho
     
  3. chrixxx

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    #53 chrixxx, Sep 27, 2016
    Like almost every race serie :) Motorsport is full of politic discussions.
     
  4. CornersWell

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    #54 CornersWell, Sep 27, 2016
    Everyone sandbags.

    Our crew heard it on the grapevine that Costalotto, when the 458 was being introduced for Daytona, "advised" to keep revs below X so as to not give away the full potential and hurt any BoP advantage.

    CW
     
  5. tomgt

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    #55 tomgt, Sep 27, 2016
    A test driver like Jean-Marc Gounon now tests all GTEs and maybe GT3s at the Michelin test track Ladoux and iirc Ledenon before season starts but...what they should do is test at Spa and Monza as well. 4-5 tracks at least.
    Now they "play" with restrictors, weight, fuel tank after each race!
    And LM even just before the race or between test days and quali

    Ford did the best job, won worlds most significant GTE class races in one single year.
    Corvette did same.
    Ferrari is backed by FIAT and Arabs/Russians so enough funds to sandbag/cheat or whatever to win Sebring, LM and Daytona.
     
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    #56 tomgt, Sep 27, 2016
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    And some more about pricing...

    Renault Sport R.S. 01 by Dallara (GT2/3-ish, carbon tub/safety cell like DTM/JGTC, Nismo GTR engine) so on a higher level than a GTE production based car.
    Price 340K euro (incl running costs and insurance for one year, net price car only 285k€ ...also available in GT3 spec)
     
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    #60 tomgt, Sep 30, 2016
    very nice pics Peter!
     
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    #62 tomgt, Oct 17, 2016
    Up to this day this car drove 25!!! ELMS races
    This chassis was entered 5 times for the 24 Hours of Le Mans (2011-2015)
    Total: 30 races
    Wins: 8 in GTE class and many 2nd and 3rd places (ELMS series)

    One race to go for 2016: Estoril

    Name ONE other Ferrari chassis in history that can compete with this car?
    I will give you the answer: NONE (not a SWB, GTO, LM, Daytona, 360, 430 or 458)
     
  13. NürScud

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    #63 NürScud, Oct 17, 2016
    Really?? Not even a 430 GT2?

    (of course the picture speaks for itself)
     
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    Really a cool car, great history
     
  15. tomgt

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    #65 tomgt, Oct 17, 2016
    No not even a 430GT2 chassis; only by winning two times the GT2 class at LM (Risi)
    So that chassis comes 2nd :)
     
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    #66 tomgt, Oct 18, 2016
    520.000 euro for a 488GT3.....new Ligier LMP217 (LMP2) 490.000 euro
    Do not know if engine is included.
     
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    #67 tomgt, Oct 18, 2016
    Excluding engine and gearbox
     
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    #68 NürScud, Oct 19, 2016
    !
     
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    #69 tomgt, Oct 19, 2016
    Nissan Engine and gearbox is about 100k euro
     
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    #70 NürScud, Oct 20, 2016
    Well, the cost of a MY2017 GTR!
     
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    #71 Makuono, Oct 23, 2016
    Is the s/n 2808 the car with #66 racing today at Estoril?

    Difficult race today!!!


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  22. tomgt

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    #72 tomgt, Oct 23, 2016
    Disaster for this team
     
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    #73 Makuono, Oct 23, 2016


    Yep.

    Very strange race with lots of incidents.


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  24. tomgt

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    #74 tomgt, Feb 6, 2017
    She will be back in June; 24 Hours of Le Mans
    SIXTH TIME!!
     
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    #75 NürScud, Feb 6, 2017
    OMG, this is great! History in the making!
     
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