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  1. Igor Ound

    Igor Ound F1 Veteran

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    Daniel Ricciardo the best in F1: Jeremy Clarkson

    He's good but he didn't impress that much before Red Bull and I am pretty sure he is taking advantage feom the same favouritism Vettel used to enjoy against M Webber

    The source finally makes the claim completely worthless

    So who is the best in business?

    I have a sneaky suspicion Ferrari will find out next year at their expenses and Mattiacci will be under a lot of scrutiny about this year's decisions
     
  2. kizdan

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    My vote is Lewis Hamilton, and I was not a fan of his when he 1st came into the sport.
     
  3. furoni

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    To me Ricci is better than both Merc drivers....i believe kimi and Vrettel are still the best
     
  4. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Define "best".

    Lewis is leading the WDC so at the moment he's best.
     
  5. Igor Ound

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    Moar better ;)
     
  6. TifosiUSA

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    just out of curiosity, how can you possibly say Kimi is the best?
     
  7. Axecent

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    I'll have what he's smoking.
     
  8. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Define better.
     
  9. Igor Ound

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    They say you only appreciate things when you loose them.

    And it's true! I love you Nando! Don't leave! We can work it out!

    And Clarkson hates Alonso, so he must be better than Ricci.
     
  10. william

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    Daniel Ricciardo is for me the revelation of the year.
    Since he has been promoted to the Red Bull team, he has perfectly adapted to the new formula and has been a stalwart leader in the team, completely outclassing his multi-champion team mate.
     
  11. Igor Ound

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    Am I on university challenge or what? Never been big on philanthropy
     
  12. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    The question is who's best. I just want to know what constitutes best.
    Fastest?
    Most points?
    Most championships?
    Most improved?
    Best looking?
    Nicest to children and small animals?
     
  13. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    What's the matter JC ? has he told you, you can stick T-Gears reasonably priced car up yer khyber pass.

    Ricci is awesome I have no doubt, but lets get real here, it's early days, let's see how he fairs when the crap hits the fan.
     
  14. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Me

    Next question :D
     
  15. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    See.
    How tough was that?
    :)
     
  16. Igor Ound

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    #16 Igor Ound, Nov 5, 2014
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    Don't play the dumb, Vizzi. The question is "best in business" and is subjective. Obviously none of the above makes anyone best outright but the best combination does. Now please don't ask me which one is the best combination. Some are better at their job than others, so who is bestest at f1 drivering? Who gets most money would be a good market regulated metric for instance but surely does not take everything into consideration. Alonso probably wins that too, though.

    What Ricciardo has done mainly this year is demonstrating that Vettel might really not be as strong as some thought, but hasn't proven the best for that, not even close yet.

    Mercedes drivers also have done nothing else than proving eachother's weaknesses with no standout dominator.

    Alonso otoh has annihilated Raikkonen and done the same with many others for quite a few years now.
     
  17. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    A drivers stock value can be lower or higher as a season progresses, Ricci's has shot up IMO, hence worth more ... how much who knows.
     
  18. Igor Ound

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    #18 Igor Ound, Nov 5, 2014
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    That seems to be Red Bull's fantastic marketing machine at work to me more than anything else.

    They knew Vettel was leaving long time, and Vettel himself might have driven slower than he could to get out of his contract.

    I think this time next year we'll be asking how Mattiacci could let the best in business go just to stamp his authority
     
  19. tuttebenne

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    If that's the case he will feel right at home next season :)
     
  20. william

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    There is no doubt that Ricciardo has been "The Man of the Year 2014".

    He is the only one who has taken the fight against superior Mercedes, even taking 3 wins, and he completely outclassed his 4 times world champion team mate in the process.

    Vettel has been outside his comfort zone and not adapted so well to new technology. He also was plagued by unrealiability.

    The other to have progressed remarkably is Botas.
     
  21. william

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    That wouldn't have been a smart tactic; ruining your reputation for contractual reason.
     
  22. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Vizzi?
    We hardly know each other well enough for that Iggy.
    :)

    Ambiguous questions prompt interesting responses and inevitable thread diversions but I thought it interesting to see which attributes posters value most.

    If the question is best in the business I vote for Bernie.
     
  23. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    LOL..heehee, but agreed about the best.

    Iggy pop rocks.
     
  24. Igor Ound

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    Are you talking about his move to Ferrari?
     
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    The difference is when I pop I don't stop I wanna be your cog
     

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