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  1. Nembo1777

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    A friend of mine in Warsaw Poland is selling this Bora project. He is not very internet savvy so asked me to mention it.

    According to factory archive data 858 was completed in January 1975.

    It is a 4.9 litre US model and was finished new in a blue Ischia livery (metallic mid blue, Salchi code 106A51) with white interior (Connolly code PAC 1544).

    It was shipped with standard equipment, no radio, by sea to Maserati Automobiles Inc in Los Angeles on 28 January 1975.

    Decades later it was bought by a European and is now for sale privately.

    The odometer shows 59658 miles.

    This is project which its prior owner has had to interrupt and sell. It is matching numbers, the electrics work, at least the main functions, the leather and interior is in very good condition, it has been colour changed to black, the paint is also in very good condition.

    It will require an engine rebuild. The engine is in the car at the moment but not connected. It turns freely. The exhaust will also need attention. The buyer may want to replace the harness, fuel lines, the clutch needs replacing, the fuel tank need repairs…it is a project.

    Original alloy wheel cover discs come with the car. Comes with service booklet, use and maintenance guide.

    Bora projects are extremely rare as many Boras were damaged, even destroyed in period, be it blown engines on the Autobahn or crashes.

    Located in Warsaw, Poland, not registered but importation tax paid. Inspection upon request. Poland is of course part of the European Union, Warsaw has an excellent very well connected International airport. €70K OBO.

    If interested PM me and I will put you in touch.

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  2. staatsof

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    I wonder if that Brian Cumming's of California car?
    His was a blue Bora and it the had the big rubber bumpers.
    I presume that this car has been converted.

    The underside of that engine next to last photo doesn't look right.
    Must be from a different car?
     
  3. Nembo1777

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    It was in California but he gave me no other info such as prior owner names.
    Yes clearly converted. That is the set of photos he sent me.
    If you mean that next to last photo is not a Bora photo he made mistake, I believe he is selling several cars now.
     
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  5. Mexico074

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    Quick ?...

    Connolly PAC 1544 is it really white or is it a light tan?

    Mike
     
  6. GLB

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    The next to last picture shows a Bora subframe and shift linkage, but the engine is not from Maserati. However, it has had an additional pulley added to drive the hydraulic pump. Somewhere there's an engine-swapped Bora, though not this one.
     
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  7. Nembo1777

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    Very interesting, will ask my friend if he knows anything about this. It would seem the owner before him played around with the idea of a substitute -non Maserati - engine, before he had to stop it all for whatever reason. Odd as the original engine turns.
     
  8. staatsof

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    Even that assessment is incorrect if we're to believe the photo is accurate as things are a mirror view of how a Bora does it's linkage.
    Best to just ignore the photo completely as it's not from this car.
     
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    The shift linkage goes into the left side of the transmission when viewed from the top. Viewed from the bottom, it would be on the right, as this picture shows. I realize this has nothing to do with the car on sale. I am just curious about engine-swapped Boras. I've heard it's been done, but have never seen one.
     
  10. staatsof

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    Your are mistaken.
     
  11. Llenroc

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    That picture showing the oil pan looks like a Chevy big or small block V8. And not sure for certain but I don’t think K&N makes a oil filter for a 1970s Maserati engine;):)
     
  12. Nembo1777

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    Again my apologies for not catching that incorrectly included photo in the file my friend sent me, he would normally know better but we were each very busy and it slipped through.
     
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    Hey Marc no reason to apologize. Just so you know I wasn’t complaining about it; I was just noticed that it looked like a chevy oil pan:)
     
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    Nope, I'm not. This is the Bora drivetrain, clearly showing the shift linkage on the left side of the transmission and engine. It would appear on the right when viewed from the bottom. As Lienroc says, this looks like a classic SBC, which seems an odd choice unless the work was done a very long time ago.
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    Is that a scale the attached to the crane? It appears to give the weight of the engine and transmission to be 6540 but if it is a scale I assume the weight is in pounds. Would it be a true weight for the engine and transmission?
     
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    654.0 lbs?
     
  17. Ferraripilot

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    #1492 Ferraripilot, Jun 22, 2024
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    That is actually a bit lighter than I expected, thank you for posting this. A small and relatively tight but not nearly as powerful 308/328 engine/gearbox weighs about 600lbs!

    Wondering if I might make a request, would you measure and tell us the exhaust port and intake port diameters please? thank you kindly!
     
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    #1493 staatsof, Jun 22, 2024
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    Let's see if I can clear up this misunderstanding.
    In that first photo which direction is the top of the photo pointing, front or rear of the car?
     
  19. staatsof

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    This is how the Bora sub frame looks from underneath rear to front . Albeit with a different motor and perhaps some other things since this is a modified car. I used flipping software to correct that original photo.
    That linkage rod doesn't look original either. I'm not even convinced that this is Bora subframe at all.

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    Possibly a De Tomaso Pantera?
     
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