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The Dreaded Droopy Mirror Syndrome!

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  1. ICUPhysician

    ICUPhysician Karting

    Aug 2, 2012
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    Steve Frank
    The outside mirrors on my 84 308 are loose and wont stay up in proper position.
    Any hints as to how to go about fixing this?
    All advice gratefully received
    Steve
     
  2. gil308

    gil308 Formula 3

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    When this happened to me years ago, I just removed the end caps and tightened the screws...haven't drooped since.
     
  3. mwr4440

    mwr4440 Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Yep.
     
  4. WalkerSport

    WalkerSport Rookie

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    Ok, Step by step.

    1) Remove the plastic end cover - it will lift out - be careful if you use a screwdriver as you may mark the plastic cover and your mounting.

    2) Slide the flex rubber up the mirror stem toward the mirror.

    3) You will see and nut and bolt half way up - one end is captive so adjust the mirror to where you want it, tighten (do not over tighten) - 10mm spanner if memory serves.

    4) Reassemble points 3 - 2 - 1 in this order.

    No more floppy mirrors! This will take less than 5 mins each.

    T.
     
  5. Easyrider7467

    Easyrider7467 Formula Junior

    Nov 3, 2005
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    Should it still drop...
    Inside the area where the screw goes, there is a conical shaped star washer that after awhile sort of looses its ability to grab. I purchase a new star washer (thats what Im calling it, essentially its a locking washer) and shaped it accordingly.

    This was the situation with my car, an '89 328.
     
  6. lostbowl

    lostbowl Formula 3

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    I know, most will say not good! But, for what it is worth------------------I HATE THE FLAG MIRRORS ON THE f CARS AND THE GERMAN CARS-----------WITH THAT SAID I would say the flag mirrors can be used for target practice and there are a multitude of aero friendly mirrors that look just great. I choose Gen 3 Corvette mirrors and I am quite happy with them. The fact is that the mechanical adj. cable fits right where the switch used to be and the flag mirror can be replaced if someone wanted to. It's your ride do what you will!
    Lost
     
  7. andyww

    andyww F1 Rookie

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    Why are the flag mirrors fitted on US cars?
     
  8. Crowndog

    Crowndog F1 Veteran

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    #8 Crowndog, Jan 18, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2014

    This might help. Needs to have certain field of view requirements?


    Planar, convex, asphericEdit
    In the U.S. and Canada, the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 111 and the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 111 require the driver side mirror to provide "unity magnification", i.e., an undistorted 1:1 reflection achieved with a flat mirror. However, unity magnification limits the field of view that can be provided by a mirror of size compatible with the vehicle body. The ECE regulations in use throughout most of the world except North America permit the driver side mirror to have a planar, convex, or aspheric surface; an aspheric section is often combined with a larger convex section, and the two sections are separated by a visible line to alert the driver to the two sections' different perspective shifts.[2][3]

    Because of the distance from the driver's eye to the passenger side mirror, a useful field of view can only be achieved with a convex or aspheric mirror. However, the convexity also minifies the objects shown. Since such objects seem farther away than they actually are, a driver might make a maneuver such as a lane change assuming an adjacent vehicle is a safe distance behind, when in fact it is quite a bit closer.[4] In the United States,[5] Canada,[6] India, Korea and Australia[citation needed], non-planar mirrors are etched or printed with the warning legend objects in mirror are closer than they appear. In Canada, this warning is often supplemented by a transparent decal on the passenger side window repeating the warning in French: les objets dans le retroviseur sont plus proche qu'ils ne le paraissent. In Korea, the warning appears in Korean. Warnings of this nature are not required in Europe.

    Although not in this reference I do remember specific field of view requirements. It may be the vertical dimension of the Euro mirror wasn't up to spec at the time. This is conjecture since I can't find the specs from the 70s and 80s.

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  9. lostbowl

    lostbowl Formula 3

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    The explanation doesn't cancel UGLY!! Ha Ha Lost
     
  10. Brian A

    Brian A F1 Rookie

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    #10 Brian A, Jan 18, 2014
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  11. Icandrive

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    Thanks for the tip. I need to tackle this too.
     
  12. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
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    Remove the allen bolt or screw that holds the mirror to the base then apply a blue loctite on the thread and retorque it back. this is what I did 6 years ago and it's still holding it tight.
     
  13. Crowndog

    Crowndog F1 Veteran

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    Agreed!


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  14. Crowndog

    Crowndog F1 Veteran

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    Exactly


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