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Discussion in 'F1' started by ChalStrad, May 29, 2015.

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  1. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    #76 VIZSLA, Jun 2, 2015
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2015
    Frank cuddly?

    Perhaps on a peculiar British scale.
    :)
     
  2. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    And the Ferrari versus McLaren battles have raised the profile of Ferrari!
    Pete
     
  3. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Absolutely right.
     
  4. merstheman

    merstheman F1 Rookie

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    Maybe the same kinds of thing, but the old man was the original! So he gets a pass.
     
  5. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Frank Williams lovable? I am not so sure about that.

    Not only Williams always appears rather dour, but it always looked to me that drivers were mere commodities in his team.
    There aren't many drivers who can say they have "gelled" at Williams, even when they have been very successful.
    Mansell, Damon Hill and Prost were unceremoniously told to leave at the year where they were world champions!
    Some other drivers don't have fond memories of their time at Williams: Derek Daly, Raph Schumacher, Mark Webber and Pastor Maldonado, for example, have commented how distant Sir Frank is with his drivers.
     
  6. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    +1

    I'd hate to see Mclaren leave. F1 can't afford Mclaren to leave as well...because if they can leave (or rather have to because of $$ reasons), other small teams are very likely to follow.
     
  7. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I was referring not so much to Frank himself, but the whole team. Can he be a bastard? No doubt. I'm sure they all can - they have to be to survive in the piranha tank after all.

    As to him being "distant" with his drivers, that's (probably) very true. However, I suspect largely because he's seen quite a few die over the years - the same "criticism" was leveled at the Old Man many times. Colin also had the same reputation, at least after he lost Jimmy.

    As for being "told to leave" as champions; It's his team and he figured there was better (& likely cheaper) talent available when he was on the top of the pile. Most here know my feelings on "our Nige", and most agree Damon, while a nice guy, wasn't a true "tier one" jockey. And Alain is, of course, French! :) [No disrespect Nero! ;)]

    But I still have a "soft spot" for the team.

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  8. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Distant?
    The old man didn't even attend races.
    :)
     
  9. kingjr9000

    kingjr9000 Formula 3

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  10. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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  11. kingjr9000

    kingjr9000 Formula 3

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    I don't know if they didn't, but i remember them talking about doing it earlier. Maybe now its been finalized?
     
  12. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Seems odd that they'd have missed such an obvious marketing tool.
     
  13. merstheman

    merstheman F1 Rookie

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    P1? Seriously?
     
  14. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    probably 2nd hand P1's...
     
  15. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    Well said. I hear this a lot and have never understood this perspective. They lost the championship because they cheated.
     
  16. rmitchell248

    rmitchell248 Formula 3

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    This is the only reply in this entire thread I could read before commenting. Luckily it was the first.


    Don't worry, our financial troubles are over we borrowed more money.... Problem solved...
     
  17. ARTNNYC

    ARTNNYC F1 Rookie
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    That was the most depressing and embarrassing weekend I have ever seen for McLaren
     
  18. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Ouch! [And maybe true ;)]

    [I could be wrong, as always, but seem to recall at least one, if not both, of their cars "failing to qualify" many years back....]

    Is the "blame" with Honda or Uncle Ron though?

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  19. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I think Ron should resign.
     
  20. Craigy

    Craigy Formula 3

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    The embarrassment already happened at the beginning of the season. If you're surprised, shocked, embarrassed for them now, then you've just tuned in.
     

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