The Enzo reimagined.... Jim's Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina

If only this would fit in the overhead bin, it would be a fitting memorial to this effort:
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Patience, grasshopper. In an age of instant gratification it's kinda nice to have to wait for a change.

 

Great project, Jim !

I'm speechless.

 

Debatable...

You arent curious as to what is in Napolis head, to whats furrowing engineers brows in Italy? Or just not curious enough to ask...

I sure as hell am!

 

he won't tell... you will just have to wait like everyone else

 

Yes, but you can expect posts like mine from others until August or so, might as well start now eh?

 

WOW. This thread is simply amazing. Napolis you are a very lucky man! I am very thankful for you in sharing all these details with us, I hope all goes well and the car performs past what you want.

I read the whole thread but did not come across anything having to do with the engine, besides being Enzo based. Any increases in power, suspension, etc.?

Will this car reside in NY?

 

As rumors began surfacing I wanted to make sure that everyone knew what this is and isn't.

The interesting thing I'm learning is that while you can draw anything you can't drive everything. Moving from an idea/sketch to a drivable car is a huge. If you look at what the students came up with for the Ferrari contest you'll realize that looking cool is only part of it. You have to be able to fit in, see out/ operate the controls. I'm not sure that the contest designs work at that level putting aside whether or not you even like them. That's where the huge engineering comes in to play. One small example. While sitting in the interior mock up I found the interior "A Pillar" which housed the roll cage to block my vision so they had to redesign the door seals and engineer a super strength alloy roll bar that was strong but smaller in diameter to reduce the structure. It's also very interesting how a few small cms. can make a huge difference in how comfortable something like head room feels. Look at the shape of the Enzo greenhouse, lower it, make it more teardrop, make the windshield/roof/rear all glass. Make the supporting carbon fiber structure encase a full roll cage. Make it something you can see out of/drive. Easier said than done... (P 4/5 is 4 inches lower than an Enzo)

 

fine I'll take a stab...

Is it a P4 revist kinda thing? A more modern P4....

 

As the wheels will be one off and the tires different we'll work on the suspension. We'll do a complete track test as well. Our car will be lighter.

The engine will be as in the Enzo. With less weight it should be adequate. Testing will tell us if we need to bump it up.

This one will travel but will call NY home.

 

Well when hints were being dropped a couple of months ago I thought this was actually two huge projects-- I'm certainly relieved that it's only one, and that this one car will have a VIN. Spend enough time in the Vintage section and you can get a pretty good idea of what goes on in Jim's head, even if it's just a peek.

I'll be on the edge of my seat in the weeks leading up to Pebble, but I really hope that Glickenhaus & Son can keep a lid on it until then. Suprises should be just that.

 

I'm already there! But I, too, think that the best things in life are worth waiting for. I know this won't disappoint.

 

Thanks for the quick reply! Hopefully one day I will catch you around a NY event. Plan on going to the Concours on the Island in the fall?

What are your performance goals for this car besides better then Enzo, if any?

 

Wow! What an awesome project. Congratulations

 

Well I'm already pee-your-pants excited. Thanks, I'll now be sleepless for another 6 months.

Napolis, thanks for sharing your information.

 

Birdcage!

 

Speculated and refuted already.

This is a very interesting read. I'm with the others here who can't wait... but will wait to see and hear anything else. To my knowledge this kind of thing hasn't happened since Prince Jefri from Brunei had his AMEX Black cut up into little pieces. Also, this level of effort is certainly more daring than buying a second set of doors and chopping them up.

I'd assume given who's behind it there will be plenty of documentation from start to finish on this project. Hopefully when the time is right we can all get a peek at that stuff.

I can imagine that people who aren't familiar with some of the Napolis history might be put off by the desecration of an Enzo, but it's nice to see that the crowd here is being very receptive. That says a lot I think.

>8^)
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You say this car needs no badge to know its a Ferrari, but will it have badges? (wow now I can't find where I read that)

 

"What are your performance goals for this car besides better then Enzo, if any?"

To have something beautiful and usable. Something that reminds you of a glorious past but moves you into the future. Something that you can trust to get you and someone you Love down the Grand Cornish to the Hotel de Paris in time to finish your desert as the fireworks go off. Something to drive into the dawn. Not something that can beat a 1500hp Supra from the stoplight but something that brings back the memories of Nino, Lorenzo and John driving The Targa, Le Mans, and The Nuremberg Ring...

 

It will be documented and the Discovery Channel will probably do a documentary as well.

 

Woah Napolis this is really exciting. I hope everything goes well for you and your car, you are doing something no one has dared to do for a long time, it is going to be SO cool.

For years now I have redesigned modern Ferraris (albeit in my schoolbooks) and I know that your new design will have all the desirable qualities of car design. In producing your new creation, hopefully Ferrari's designers may go back to the classic, timeless and aggressive cars of their past which gave them their renowned status they have today worldwide.

Really I am envious of you. From what I have read this car will be beautiful and have superb performance on the track while being comfortable and user-friendly.

So anyway thanks for sharing this information, good luck and have fun,

Vimal

 

wow.....can we set that to music and put it in with a video of the soon-to-be car? I admire your goals very much, this car is going to be something else!

 

Very very eloquent Jim - I can only imagine the immense pride and pleasure you must be gaining from this extraordinary project.

Thank you so much for trying to share just a little of that with us mere mortals

 

This is absolutely amazing. Congratulations! I have always wanted to build my own car but the costs involved are huge. Given that you had to buy another Enzo then pay Pininfarina to design and build the car plus all the extras that most prototypes don't go through like safety testing I would assume that you are at the cost of the Enzo plus $3 million to modify it. Is this about correct? Sorry if this has already been addressed.

 

As Kenny sang:
Never count your money when you're sitting at the table they'll be time enough for counting when the playings through.

That said not a bad guess.