the F40's of Pebble 2022

that is certainly the best. for $3 mil it should be. ........ now, how about the best 'driver' for a million less?
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I know the car and owner. Only one I have given a 100 point score to. He has a lot of cars and they come and go but surprised hes selling that one.

 

Thread title: 'the F40's of Pebble 2022' - ok, how about listing them? (I'd do it, but I have too many cat video's to watch )
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i struggle to rationalize the price disparity between the F40 and the F50. I get production numbers, but still. To me, the F40 has it ALL. All business, raw, brute....Love it

 

if there were only 400 F40s it would be worth 2X the f50

 

honored to be within a stone's throw of this club

 

I was just reading the old score sheets to catch up on the car for sale at Mecum. You have a very good car. Between the Sotheby and Mecum cars but very little score wise separates them.

Its a good year to buy an F40. The Sotheby car should get all the money. It will be a watermark for the current market. Owners a good guy. Makes me wonder what he got to replace it.

 

i don't remember what it needed but we addressed it as soon as the car came back home!

 

You’ve never driven an F50; it would be clearer then

Aside from the production numbers, as driving machines one has wooden driver controls, throttle that behaves like a crude switch, non functioning brakes, clutch pedal that is like doing a workout and is built on a tubular frame with an turbo engine in it. You drive an F40 by waiting for the straights and then carefully rolling on throttle to enjoy the boost between corners. Not really a confidence inspiring car.

The other is a full carbon tub formula 1 car with a license plate, a naturally aspirated v12 as a structural member, exquisite steering, brake and throttle finesse. Gearbox like butter and clutch easy in town. Brakes that properly work yet no ABS, steering assist or stability of any kind. It’s open top and yet has no squeaks or rattles because it’s carbon construction. In short the purest race car for the road that will ever exist, with proper race pedigree. Also in my experience the best “analog” driving car that exists.

 

I have driven both, a lot and it isn't obvious to me. Both have significant pluses and minuses.

 

SQ does know!

 

well would you care to elaborate with some specifics then? What are the minuses of the cars ? In which dimension is the f40 a better car other than the static looks

 

Well in the world of Ferrari looks is a big one so discounting it seems a little like saying "Aside from that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play".

Minus F40. I am not a huge fan of turbo motors. The F40 has a lot of lag and very poor off boost performance. In my late 60s I do not look forward to getting in and out of one. Race seats in a street car got old for me in my 20's.
Plus F40 Pretty reliable car that has had impressive longevity with its power output. Easy to maintain and repair.

Minus F50. The interior noise level is a deal breaker all by itself. A client of mine drove his with he and his wife or passenger wearing aircraft head sets so they could communicate. Engine being F1 based was not built for 100,000 care free miles. Its a pretty needy piece and have had a number open for that reason. A stressed member engine in a street car was a dumb idea. Is directly related to most of its troubles. The engine flexes and there is nothing to be done about it. There is nothing easy to repair. Not a huge deal for a car of this type but is a profound difference between the cars.

For the F50 Great engine power and response, great gearbox, brakes and suspension. Jack screw in front suspension to raise front was executed beautifully. Can get in and out, even old guys.


All that said I'd take a 288 over either. Great usable car. You would never look at it and say "Gee, do I really want to drive that now"?. Good performance, looks are an 11. I know one that was a commuter for the guy for a long time. Its a great sports car that does not punish you for driving it.

 

Is the smart money bailing out of the USA F40? Why own the modification when you can get the original for less?

 

Hear that everyone? The sky is falling. Better dump your US F40s before they are worthless.

 

To every time there is season

Turn, Turn, Turn

A time to buy

A time to sell

God swear I hope it’s not too late…

With apologies to Roger McGuinn.






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