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  1. Olivier NAMECHE

    Olivier NAMECHE F1 Veteran

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    consigned on Delivery date.....
     
  2. P300V8

    P300V8 Formula 3

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    The consignment date [consegna] is the date the date the car left the factory. The delivery date is not mentioned in the records and the mention of 'delivery date' is the source of much confusion...
     
  3. raymondQV

    raymondQV F1 Rookie

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    As we know the cars were transported via trucks to the Dealers, depending on how many Dealers the trucks had to visit, there is a significant time difference between consignment and delivery to the Client. Especially because the dealer wrote the date into the Service/garantee booklet the car was handed over/delivere to the Client which might be another number of days or even month(s).
     
  4. Olivier NAMECHE

    Olivier NAMECHE F1 Veteran

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    Raymond, don't confuse the different eras... '60s were not '70s nor '80s...

    Delivery date is NOT to the end Customer but to dealer physically or truck leaving factory, but also some cars were delivered at factory to end Customer... easy mix, yes !

    Here is a clear example of what I confirm :

    Miura SV Telaio #5052

    Consegna : 10 maggio 1972

    Cliente : Foitek – Svizzera

    Finished production date and delivered on its builtsheet and Ingrid's list : 10/05/1972 - pick up by Foitek or transport truck ?
    Foitek – dealer in Zurich checked the car in Swizerland the 12/05/72.
    Plate and title with “ZH” for Zurich location : 15/05/72

    I know you can provide complete opposite examples, I trust you on that... as I have also notice it...

    My conclusion is, there is not only one Truth...
     
  5. P300V8

    P300V8 Formula 3

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    I repeat: The consignment date [consegna] is the date the date the car left the factory. The delivery date is not mentioned in the records and the mention of 'delivery date' is the source of much confusion...not only that, the consignment date is not the date that a car came off the line [scesa catena]...
     
  6. Christian.Fr

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  8. em42

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    These pictures are amazing. Thanks for sharing.
    It seems that there is a bit of dust, strange to let these cars stay in the factory and not deliver them right away to get some fresh cash.
     
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  9. mikael82

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    It's like they are not even trying to make two cars alike. Situation is more of "can you spot the difference" competition.
     
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  10. P5BNij

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    Great photos.... now imagine them in glorious '70s technicolour...
     
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  11. P300V8

    P300V8 Formula 3

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    Some years ago I calculated that at the peak of the troubles there were over 50 completed Urracos awaiting consignment. Similar difficulties are reflected in the number of Espadas and Jaramas awaiting consignment in these images. They didn't leave until payment had been received...
     
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  12. Christian.Fr

    Christian.Fr Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I put similar pictures in Maserati thread.
    This stock was made against the crash petrol in 73 polemics . At these time it was a problem to have a car like this, consumption, pollution etc.
    Pictures are dated on Feb 74.
     
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  13. P5BNij

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    As well as the above, there was the uneasy political situation in Italy in the early to mid '70s that meant some of those who could afford to own and run high end exotics didn't want to be seen driving them because of the threat of having their family members kidnapped!
     
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  14. em42

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  15. joe sackey

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    #292 joe sackey, Jun 18, 2018
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    The men & the machines, I love this, the people are as important as the cars, without the artisans who created these jewels we wouldn't have them, meanwhile you learn so much about the machines by getting to know the people who built them
     
  16. em42

    em42 Formula 3

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    So true!
    This weekend, I was so happy and blessed to meet some retired artisans. Great conversations, so many nice anecdotes about the factory and Ferruccio. A lot of passion!
     
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  17. vectorfiles

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    #294 vectorfiles, Jun 25, 2018
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    is anyone familiar with the Klemantaski collection? A real treasure trove of historic photos.
    The Klemantaski collection is a huge photo archive, including factory images (Ferrari, Detomaso, Lamborghini, Serenissima etc )from the 1960´s and early 1970´s:

    The Klemantaski Collection
    PMB 219 - 65 High Ridge Road
    Stamford, CT 06905-3814 USA
    Tel & Fax: (203) 968-2970
    Alternate Fax: (203) 322-0270
    E-mail: [email protected]

    Read Our Blog: klemcoll.wordpress.com
    Website: www.klemcoll.com


    The Klemantaski Collection
    Venue List
    http://www.klemcoll.com/PDF/Venue_List.pdf
    view thumbnails here:
    http://www.klemcoll.com/TheGallery.aspx

    (...)
    1963
    Lamborghini Factory Construction (6/63) - 6 b/w photos - 63PC18
    Lamborghini Factory Temp. Quarters (7/16) - 74 b/w photos - 63PC19
    Lamborghini Factory (8/63) - 38 b/w photos - 63PC20
    Lamborghini: Intro. 350GT Scaglione (10/26) - 73 b/w photos - 63PC30
    (...)
    1964
    Lamborghini Factory (1/64) - 24 b/w photos - 64PC2
    F. Lamborghini (2/25) - 35 b/w photos - 64PC3
    Lamborghini: 350GT Touring Proto. (5/64) - 59 b/w photos - 64PC17
    Lamborghini: 350GT (9/64) - 34 b/w photos - 64PC21
    Lamborghini Factory - 23 b/w photos - 64PC4
    Lamborghini Facory: engines - 23 b/w photos - 64PC10
    (...)
    1965
    Lamborghini Factory: 350GT (3/65) - 21 b/w photos - 65PC3
    Lamborghini Factory: Jenkinson (4/65) - 27 b/w photos - 65PC4
    Lamborghini Factory: P400 chassis (10/65) - 50 b/w photos- 65PC30
    Lamborghini Factory: P400 motor (11/65) - 6 b/w photos - 65PC37
    (...)
    1966
    Lamborghini-Bizzarrini P538 (1/66) - 9 b/w photos - 66PC3
    Lamborghini Factory (2/66) - 31 b/w photos - 66PC7
    Lamborghini: 400GT 2+2. 350GT, Miura (2/66) - 68 b/w photos - 66PC9
    Neri & Bonacini: Lamborghini GT Spl. (3/66) - 32 b/w photos - 66PC10
    Lamborghini Miura P400 (5/29) - 60 b/w photos - 66PC22
    Lamborghini Miura (7/6) - 48 b/w photos - 66PC29
    Neri & Bonacini: Lamborghini (7/66) - 27 b/w photos - 66PC30
    Lamborghini Factory: Miura n. 2 (10/2) - 58 b/w photos - 66PC34
    (...)
    1967
    Lamborghini Marzal (4/17) - 58 b/w , 5 color photos - 67PC7, C67PC6
    Lamborghini Factory (4/67) - 29 b/w photos - 67PC10
    (...)
    1968
    Lamborghini: Islero (8/26) 35 b/w photos - 68PC7
    Lamborghini Factory (8/27) - 35 b/w photos - 68PC9
    Lamborghini: Espada 1st production (8/68) - 69 b/w photos - 68PC6
    Lamborghini Islero (10/11) - 31 b/w photos - 68PC18
    Modena Tests: Lamborghini (10/68) - 20 b/w photos - 68PC21
    Modena Tests: Lamborghini Miura, Espada - 34 b/w photos - 68PC8
    (...)
    1969
    Modena Tests: Lamborghini Miura, Islero (1/69) - 28 b/w photos - 69PC4
    Lamborghini Factory: Miura S, Espada (4/69) - 26 b/w, 7 color photos - 69PC14, C69PC4
    (...)
    1970:
    Lamborghini Jarama (3/6) - 50 b/w photos - 70PC27
    Lamborghini Factory Addition (6/70) - 12 b/w photos - 70PC32
    Lamborghini: Espada, Miura (9/70) - 32 b/w photos - 70PC39
    Lamborghini Factory: P250 Proto. (10/11) - 98 b/w photos - 70PC42
    (...)
    1971
    Lamborghini Factory: LP500 motor (date: 3/3) - 59 b/w photos - 71PC4
    Lamborghini Factory: Jota (3/71) - 28 b/w photos - 71PC5A
    Lamborghini Factory: LP500 Proto. (4/71) - 50 b/w photos - 71PC8
    (...)
    1972
    Lamborghini Factory: Jarama S (9/13) - 70 b/w photos - 72PC19
    Lamborghini Factory: P250 Uracco (11/72) 51 b/w photos, 6 color photos - 72PC24, C72PC3
    Lamborghini Jarama Gp. 4 (12/8) - 51 b/w photos - 72PC31
    Lamborghini Urraco, Futa Pass (12/8) 14 - b/w photos - 72PC32
    Lamborghini Factory: Countach chassis (12/23) - 15 b/w photos - 72PC33
    (...)
    1973
    Lamborghini Countach Proto. (1/25) - 16 b/w photos, 6color photos - 73PC2, C73PC4
    Lamborghini Factory: Countach constr. (2/19) - 28 b/w photos - 73PC4
    Lamborghini Factory: Countach constr. (2/27) - 58 b/w photos - 73PC7
    Lamborghini Factory: Countach (3/2) - 46 b/w photos - 73PC8
    Lamborghini Factory: Miura SV (3/2) - 37 b/w photos - 73PC9
    Lamborghini Factory: Countach (3/9) - 5 b/w photos - 73PC10
    Lamborghini Factory: Countach (3/13) - 35 b/w photos - 73PC11
    Lamborghini Factory: Countach (3/13) - 35 b/w photos - 73PC13
    Lamborghini Uracco (4/73) - 30 b/w photos - 73PC17
    Lamborghini Factory: Miura, Uracco motor (5/73) - 17 b/w photos - 73PC18
    Lamborghini Factory: Countach pre-prod. (6/29) - 13 b/w photos - 73PC19
    Lamborghini Factory: Uracco Rallye (9/73) - 49 b/w photos - 73PC21
    (...)
    1974
    Lamborghini Factory: Miura motors (3/74) - 3 b/w photos - 74PC3
    Lamborghini Uracco (USA) (11/74) - 32 b/w photos - 74PC14
    Lamborghini Factory: Countach prod. (11/74) - 7 b/w photos - 74PC15
    (...)
    1975
    Lamborghini Factory: Uracco Spl. (4/75) - 36 - 75PC1
    Lamborghini Factory: Uracco, Countach (12/75) - 16 - 75PC8
    Lamborghini Uracco Rallye - 3 - 75PC12
    Lamborghini Miura S & SV details - 35 - 75PC13
    (...)
    1976
    Lamborghini Factory: Countach (2/25) - 19 - 76PC1
    Lamborghini Factory: Uracco Silhouette, Countach chassis (3/6) - 19 - 76PC3
    Lamborghini Factory: Uracco Silhouette (4/2) - 55 - 76PC4
    Lamborghini Factory: Countach, Uracco motor - 35 - 76PC24
    (...)
    1977
    Lamborghini Factory: Countach (2/77) - 13 - 77PC5
    (...)
    1978
    Lamborghini Factory: Miura, Countach (5/78) - 24 - 78PC4
    (...)
    1979
    Lamborghini Espada Spl. (6/79) - 22 - 79PC11
    Lamborghini Factory (9/79) - 56 - 79PC12
    Lamborghini Factory (H. Hahne) (11/79) - 5 - 79PC14
    (...)
    1980
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    1981
    Lamborghini Factory (10/81) - 14 - 81PC8
    (...)

    Miscellaneous Modena Color Photographs by Peter Coltrin
    Lamborghini - Miscellaneous - 245 color photos

    Miscallaneous Automotive Photographs by Yves Debraine & Ami Guichard
    Lamborghini LP500 Countach - 9 color photos
    Lamborghini Marzal (1967) - 35 b/w -52 color

    plus hundreds or even thousands of more super rare historic photos of even rarer cars:
    Bizzarrini, Ferrari Felber FF, Monteverdi Hai etc etc
     
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  18. Olivier NAMECHE

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    You forgot to mention for the use of these pictures, you have to pay a fee...
     
  19. joe sackey

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    Peter Sachs owns it, I've worked with him for @ 15 years, very helpful

    True, but at least the material exists and is archived.
     
  20. hyenahf

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  21. pc233

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    Correct on all counts. I took this photo at the 30th Anniversary, and foolishly forgot to get Marcello's autograph.
     
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  23. Olivier NAMECHE

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