thank god for wayback machine, we can see what the prices were back in the day! here's a sample from 2011 - prices you've quoted are definitely on the higher side, but a good car could've been secured for around 40k pounds: https://web.archive.org/web/20100805064144/http://pistonheads.co.uk:80/sales/list.asp?g=1&s=193&filter=&o=&pc=&min=&max=&txt=&px=&p=1&pagesize=15&xsl=list&y1=&y2=&d=0&dist=&nodays=0 I don't think the seller made much money on that car, probably got his money back and a small profit.
So, to summarise, the seller sold his import 360 in one day for a decent number and probably got his money back or made a small loss / profit. Still doesn’t quite fit the “Every single person who has an import will have a nightmare trying to sell it” narrative, does it? How about we just place that in the extremely large file labelled “BS Peter said”?
Yeah it’s definitely a win. Must have had that number in mind though to take it one day after listing for $27k more. I agree re car value. It’s amazing what you can get for not much these days. PS. Can you change gears in 0.15 seconds reliably while wearing tracksuit pants?
I fully agree. I just bought a UK Import 2004 Red Manual Spider less than 10,000 original kms (yes kms not miles) with full and detailed service history and Im wrapped with it. Its perfect. I paid good money for it well over 170k because its a top car and I know I could easily sell it again possibly even at a profit. I even had other buyers trying to undermine my deal after contracts had been signed by offering the owner more money than I agreed to. God bless them !?!? Frankly didnt give a rats whether a UK import or Oz delivery. In fact this whole argument about Oz delivery being soooo much better is all smoke and mirrors IMHO mostly propogated by the Oz car owners fearing the UK imports flooding the market that put downward pressure on their own car resale values. Indeed for some models including the 360 my mechanic would argue strongly that it is a better car. Plus you get so many more interior options etc not available with Oz delivered cars. I have the classic creme/burgundy interior and it looks sweet. Especially as it has the carbon fibre racing seats as well. Loving my UK 360 [emoji38][emoji38] Sent from my SM-N915G using FerrariChat.com mobile app
you're just being all defensive now.....no one said an oz delivery car is necessarily a better car, but long term, I still maintain it's a better buy. The end.
Why? It comes down to the quality of the car and its service history and thats all. I really don't see the relevance of its journey to our shores. Sent from my SM-N915G using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Indeed for some models the Euro spec'd cars outperform the US spec'd Oz delivered equivalents. Sent from my SM-N915G using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Unless the car was delivered with a kmh speedo, or has had a complete ECU change, the odometer remains in miles regardless of the face of the speedo. This is to prevent tampering with the odometer. Your mechanic is being kind to his new customer. Just wait till you have to replace the suspension bushes (a frequent job on 360's) and discover the electrolytic corrosion that most UK cars have.
I think after being a part of this forum for only a short time that there is a lot of people here that have bought/are buying Ferraris for really different reasons. You've got people buying whilst having resale value at the forefront of there mind (Red, Creme interiors, Oz delivery a must etc), whilst you also have people like myself whom are simply a huge long time fan and supporter of the marque and are happy just to get into an "entry level" (If basing off of dollar value) Ferrari being happy to sacrifice on spec, colour etc just to simply get into and enjoy the car. The Ferrari buying/selling market is truly the most bizarre ive interacted with! In relation to Morettis comment, I do think Ferraris in general in Australia are astronomically overpriced, especially the brand new ones in comparison for what you can get with your money in this day and age! Passion only goes so far!
Well said 100% on the money. It's not a car it really is a way of life, just ask my most tolerant wife [emoji6][emoji38] Sent from my SM-N915G using FerrariChat.com mobile app
I owned and loved my much maligned and trashed 348 for 8 years and loved every moment driving it. Missed it badly when I sold but new I would end up with a better mistress in the end [emoji6] Sent from my SM-N915G using FerrariChat.com mobile app
I have read somewhere that changing from miles to km is possible using the SD2. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Spot on, as anybody who has looked underneath a UK car on a hoist knows. It doesn't take years on salt laden roads to do it either, I've seen almost new ex-UK cars that were just horrible underneath.
Honestly "years on salt laden roads". Arent you being just a bit melodramatic [emoji6]...!!! Ive been to the UK many times. You make the streets of London sounds like the Manly Beach foreshore .!! To all the UK import car guys/gals in Oz. How many of you are currently driving around in unroadworthy rust buckets ??? This is the classic hype that has done the rounds for years about UK cars. I think the so called 'salt ridden' UK car is more urban myth than fact. Sure there will be some exceptions but lets face it how many Ferrari owners in the UK hammer around in their Ferrari's on snowy winter days with roads covered in salty snow slurry. How many never clean it afterwrads. I know several owners in the UK and they are only too aware of this and carefully hyberbate their cars over the winter period and wouldn't dream of driving in such conditions. Indeed the worst rust bucket I ever saw was a 246GT in Adelaide that needed new chassis rails and it had been in Adelaide all its life. In general UK cars have more tolerance in their software to fuel quality, they're less glitchy, they have more aggressive throttle mapping. Aussie cars are hated in the UK more than UK cars are hated here. Same goes for NZ. Take your car to NZ and see how it compares price wise to a UK import over there. Oz imports are frowned upon in NZ. So its really down to the car. If its a good clean car with good service history then it will bring top money here whether a UK import or Oz delivery. Sent from my SM-N915G using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Use any terminology you like; but the results are the same. I've been around Ferraris for over 40 years and I've seen literally hundreds and hundreds of them up close and personal. Without a shadow of a doubt the worst cars that I have ever seen have been English imports. I've looked at cars that spent a few months of an English winter on a hoist and all the fixtures and fastners underneath had a film of corrosion, and this was in an era where the cars had good anti-corrosion protection from the factory. I've even seen modern Ferraris that were so badly corroded underneath that suspension components had to be cut off to be replaced because they were rusted on solid. Now imagine what it was like back in the 60's and 70's where they had no rust protection measures. In the "good old days" the unpainted bodies/chassis sat unprotected outside until they were needed for production, that's why your Adelaide 246GT was rotten - they all came with rust as standard equipment. There are of course exceptions to the rule and there are some good UK imports around because those particular cars were never used hard and put away wet. Those cars are unusual here because most buyers of imports are looking to save money by buying an import over an Oz delivered car. These sorts of buyers will typically buy the absolute cheapest rather than the best car that they can find, and that's why the average UK import you find here is of sub-par quality compared to your average Oz delivered car. You may not like it; but thats a fact.
So this guy with a premature ejaculation problem comes out of nowhere. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app