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Discussion in 'Australia' started by ashsimmonds, Oct 21, 2006.

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  1. simon klein

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  2. kerrari

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    I really hope it goes to someone like the Admiral who will drive it, but I think that's a forlorne hope...another trophy in a fancy shed no doubt.
     
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    Great read cheers Simon ,I’ve missed your historical titbits please keep them coming


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  4. moretti

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    Good to see someone is reading them ..... apart from his "partner" Steve :p
     
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  5. simon klein

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    Ralph Lauren...
     
  6. greg246

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    Marked as sold, whom needs photos if the price is right?
     
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    Auction isn't until August? Or did he gazump the auction?
     
  8. simon klein

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    No,no,no.....'the trophy hunter'
     
  9. kerrari

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    Got it; hope it doesn't happen...
     
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  11. simon klein

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    There seems to be a surfeit of these at the moment. Boaties...or used to be..

    http://www.oldtimeraustralia.com/wp_car_dealer/1972-ferrari-365-gtc4-6/

    Museum....the blue one is the LHD writeoff.

    https://gosfordclassiccarmuseum.com.au/surplus-car/1972-ferrari-365/

    https://gosfordclassiccarmuseum.com.au/surplus-car/1972-ferrari-365-gtc-4/

    I'm thinking the Grigio is the same car.
     
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  12. kerrari

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    Just when is the ATO going to act on this 'museum'?
     
  13. Horse

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    What on earth do you mean?
     
  14. IanB

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    governments everywhere are happy to look the other way when large amounts of capital appear from offshore and I'm sure the "museum" are being careful to legally exploit the gaps in vehicle dealership legislation.

    They're not the first to do it btw, a well known and occasional guest of her majesty in WA made a good living trading cars from his "museum".
     
  15. Horse

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    I don't see any problem in what they are doing.

    It's his money.

    He is also very big on new apartment developing in the Gosford area, should someone call the ATO on that too?

    Talk about tall poppy syndrome.
     
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    I'm not arguing with any of that, the reality is that enormous amounts of questionable capital enters Australia all the time - anyone who's ever dealt with a Chinese development company soon works out that their wealth doesn't fit with their activity.

    The Gosford museum isn't doing anything illegal and I doubt if they'll make a profit for many years, so no tax to avoid.

    If you shut down the museum_as_tax_avoidance industry you'd have no car museums anywhere in the world. Goodbye Petersen, Blackhawk, etc, etc.
     
  17. Horse

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    Yep, meant more towards Karen's informed observation.;)

    And not just private car museums either.
     
  18. simon klein

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    All of us may barking up the wrong tree in a roundabout kindaway.

    When you hit on some of their threads/titles,or whatever they're called,only one keeps mentioning the word museum..the News one.

    Almost all the other ones just call it Gosford Classic Cars...quite a normal name for a car dealer...sometimes the word collection is mentioned but not with a capital C.

    Furthermore the word showroom is being used extensively.
     
  19. IanB

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    uh huh...

    https://gosfordclassiccarmuseum.com.au/
     
  20. Maranello550

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    They can't be making much on their actual real sales.....Tidy 356B sold 80K......The ex Mildren Brabham BT11 with a 2.5 Liter CC engine only sold for 220K....The only area they look to be doing well in is the Aussie muscle cars....The ex bunnings site would cost an absolute fortune to run with staff etc....So my view is they are nowhere like setting the world on fire....Looks like a very wealthy bloke with a big passion in cars....I'd say he makes far more money in the developments he is doing with Singo on the central coast...
     
  21. simon klein

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    Nah not the when you're inside the site the logo is only GCC.....where it used to be GCCM.....see you didn't notice that...:(
     
  22. IanB

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    I don't notice many things :(
     
  23. kerrari

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    So am I wrong in thinking that there'd be different (beneficial) tax implications from a museum disposing of unwanted items and a used car dealer trading cars?
     
  24. simon klein

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    i would suggest this bloke has various trading names to suit what he's doing on the site.

    I would also suggest he has done material change of use to council requirements (if necessary).

    As an example,when I moved into my existing shed I had to do a MCoU because council's requirement for rentas was 'showroom',mine is a shed,yet bizarrely I bought one of my
    landcruisers out of a shed/dealer on the Gold Coast.
     

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