the Ferrari market watch thread

You can't work that out?

Ok.

 

Work what out?...Is there an embedded cryptic message in your statement?..

 

No...I just thought the answer to your question was so obvious that it makes the question dumb.

 

Yawn...Really?...

 

I’ve driven my Macan dsg and compared to the F1, I honestly prefer the F1.
The F1 is so good, old fashion but I like it a lot. It’s between my manual A5 and the dsg. The dsg is so sterile. Manual be nicer but I drive manual daily since 1985... so F1 feel slightly special for me.

 

Yep. Really

 

Ok

 

I changed mine to the Stradale TSU Chin...I love the rawness of it...

 

100%
The DSG is lightning fast but feels like automatic if that makes senses whereas the F1 has a much more manual feel, you can modulate the clutch uptake with throttle input

 

That’ll be nice. How much and is it easy to do?
With the car value I don’t feel like putting more $$ on it not to mention the $$ needed for the sticky buttons that is almost as much as the car

 

Spot on. F1 don’t get the credit that’s due

 

Obviously a manual 360 would be great but a bit out of reach for me

 

Very short legs?

 

Groan

 

Stop pedalling hate

 

I stumped for another pun

 

The long and short of it is that you've all gone lazy.

 

Not us two or Simon or Ian on GAD.

 

Are there two Simon's doing the GAD>

 

Did it 6 or 7 years ago when they were still available..The Stradale TSU compared to the original is chalk and cheese...It really changed the car....

 

ment Peter W

 

I've had the earliest of smg, dsg, etc cars because my clutch leg is a prosthesis, I can drive a manual but elected long ago to go the smg route in my first M3, I loved it because I didn't have to go through the pain of constantly pushing a hard clutch all the time in traffic. They were agricultural when compared to the current technology of twin clutches but I totally agree, I in a lot of ways preferred them as they feel more like a manual than twin clutch as you say, you learn to modulate throttle with gear changes for a smoother change, or full revs & bang it feels like you absolutely dropped a mnual clutch between gear changes. I remember my BMW M5 E60 V10 if you pumped up the speed of gear change mode & gave full throttle flat changes between gears it nearly felt like the diff was going to drop out, but it was the closest to a manual box in feel.

This is imo exactly why car companies progressed to the twin clutch because they can be driven as a full automatic box, whereas smg & the early Ferrari boxes were really a manual just without the need to push a clutch pedal. My 430 & the Scuderia were brilliant, I loved the gearboxes but you couldn't really drive any of those in auto mode as they were rough & slow to change at low revs, but if you bought that sought of box imo it was for the manual feel of it, which I loved & used the paddles as if it was a manual box & still do. I occasionally drive the RS3 in auto mode but the McLaren always manually using paddles.

I believe car companies developed the new twin clutch because it expanded the market for all sports & cars fitted with these boxes, it suits people that would never buy a manual box because they can't or don't want to change gears, presto they now have an auto.

 

Plus the time difference over a manual ,

 

Don't get me wrong I'm loving the Sebring with a clutch again for country road driving, it is a great experience to double shuffle, match revs & get the timing just right again like in the old days, but I could never have a daily or fast modern sports without smg, dsg, twin clutch etc, they are also just magnificent imo.

 

And probably Ferrari’s manual might not be as good as the Audi’s manual