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The Ferrari of Bikes - Which is It?

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  1. West777

    West777 Formula Junior

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    If you could name any bike manufacturer, or a single model, as the Ferrari of Bikes, which would it be? Ducati was the one I always considered, but, I checked out the Benelli Tornado, which is also Italian. What an amazing bike. I love the unique styling of the Ducati 999s, but the Tornado looks maginificent, and is claimed to have been influenced by years of moto racing. Another awesome Bike in my opinion is the MV Agusta. Not Italian (British I think) but they also incorporate a unique design (especially the exhaust) and awesome performance. WHich bike would you choose? I think overall my choice would be the Ducati 999s.
     
  2. aawil

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    I think ducati would probably be it.They have the high maintainence and high service costs of a ferrari and are italian too. I really like those aprilia's the best as far as italian bikes go. Too bad they don't make any high revving inline fours. :( I'm not crazy about the v-twin sound.
     
  3. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    The MV Agusta is most definitely Italian, and infact the latest Agusta is designed by the same guy who designed the Ducati 916.

    Ducati and MV Agusta are actually owned by the same company.

    Ducati is the Ferrari of bikes, as they produce bikes to race ... look at them in MotoGP and World Superbikes, etc. Agusta used to, but ...

    The MV Agusta F4 is an inline 4 that was designed with input from Ferrari and revs real high :)

    Pete
     
  4. Dale

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    Bimota 500cc vdue,i had two of these v twin 2-stroke fuel injected beasts,the first on stoped on me,the second one well i wont go there, very sexy looking italian bike.
     
  5. ART360

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    It's clearly the Ducati, but for street use, the're a little slow. For street use, I'd take a bimoto, with a Suzuki 1000 engine.

    Art
     
  6. castex

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    I love Bimote! Serious class; they're not really two wheeled ferraris as they don't make their own engines, but the quality of workmanship, looks and price are staggering.
     
  7. Flash

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    The Ducati, it is the most beautiful thing in the world and its name holds some sort of aura to it.
     
  8. aawil

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    I was refering to the Aprilia's though.
     
  9. Kenny94945

    Kenny94945 Karting

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    Would have to be Ducati...I guess the 998.

    Rossa red, fly yellow, tube frame, Itailian (very exotic on the 998) design, Italiain built engine and chassis. Carbon fiber upgrades. Lastly, twice as much as a Asian bike!!

    MV is a close second...lacks the paint color. Aprilla doesn't have the hertiage. Bimota...great bike, but as above, Suzuki engines.
     
  10. F40

    F40 F1 Rookie

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    BOSS HOSS or Hayabusa.
     
  11. West777

    West777 Formula Junior

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    lol, Boss Hoss????????? Aren't those the 500hp 502ci Monsters?


    Psk, thanks for the info. I dont know why I was thinking Agusta was British, I certanily didn't think it was Italian...shows how much i know :)
     
  12. bumboola

    bumboola Formula Junior

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    Mighty fine taste, Art :cool:
     
  13. kiyoharu

    kiyoharu Formula Junior

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    MV Agusta separated from Ducati right around 1999. Also, Malaysian car company Proton signed a letter of intent with owner Claudio Castiglioni to buy 50% of MV Agusta just last week.

    Aprilia is newer than both, but has no less heritage. Multiple time winners in the lower MotGP classes, and current champion Valentino Rossi started racing on Aprilias. They have the advanatge of having close-cooperation with 2-stroke engine specialists Rotax.

    The problem with them is that they are not familiar with 4-stroke technology, hence the use of Cosworth-designed engines for their MotoGP bikes.
     
  14. mrdigital

    mrdigital Formula Junior

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    Ducati slow for the street? When you get to the high end bikes 999,R1,Gixxer,
    it's usually up to the rider.I've seen monsters beat superbikes at track days.
     
  15. Dale

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    The bimota v-due was a in house own engine pure italian.
     
  16. Artherd

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    Mv Agusta and/or Ducati 996/748 (and NOT the newer ugly 999/749)

    Art- a little 'slow' for street use? {wets pants}

    Best!
    Ben.
     
  17. vette79

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    i guess it depends on what youre looking for. me, id agree in saying that the hayabusa is the ferrari of superbikes. i like the performance. the bike is a 1300 cc inline four produced by suzuki...gsxr 1300 hayabusa. 0-60 time in bike is 3.1 seconds. top speed of 192 or 197 mph. however it actually accelerates harder from 60-140 than from 0-60 due to gearing. my brother owns a hayabusa and ive even gotten to ride it some :) the bike warps time, its unconceivable that you could move that fast... at low rpms in where it wasnt making near its peak power i was lifting the front end of the bike up simply by lightly rolling the throttle at about 75 mph. granted i only weight 130 but still.... in first gear at 1/8 throttle the bike accelerates like a rocket... 1/4 throttle in first gear feels like the earth is about to reverse its rotation as the front end lifts up.... 1/2 throttle if rolled on is instant death by multiple endos at high speed, and tire smoke for blocks if chopped on. there IS no 3/4 and full throttle in first gear, and no full throttle in second and close to it in third. nothin like going 130 mph in third gear and still being able to accelerate harder than most bikes would at lower speeds. yee haa.
     
  18. TestShoot

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    Here Here! the old 'brows' were better less 'japanese' styiling. Wasn't there a rumor about Enzo owning Triumph?

    Now if you don't mind the valve job every 7500 miles join me on my:
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    They are fast but not the fastest, just like Ferraris. Anybody can finish firts, but to finish second in style, well that never goes unnoticed.
     
  19. LAfun2

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    couldn't have said it better myself. even though i am a suzuki guy at heart, i would take the old 748/996 anyday over a hayabusa. those bikes just turn me on! single swing arm, ooh.


    and sure a corvette or supra can have 1100 HP and faster than a ferrari, but at the end of the day a 355 is a 355! enough said

    not always about speed.

    i will take a 355 and 748 both in yellow please :)
     
  20. Shadow DN8

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    I thought it was Cagiva. Did not Ferrari have a design relationship with them?
     
  21. West777

    West777 Formula Junior

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    Well, like Mr.Ferrari said himself, anyone can build a fast car (in this case, bike). Whats important is how it performs at given speeds.
     
  22. thecarreaper

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    ummmm dItto LAFUN2......
     
  23. italcarguy

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    ducati 750 monster is gonna be my firsat bike.
     
  24. parkerfe

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    Although not Italian, Harley Davidson is the "Ferrari of bikes" for several reasons : 1) they look like no other bike made; 2) they sound like no other bike made; 3) they are never up to date in technology with other marques; 4) old ones are not very reliable; 5) they are expensive buy, to own and to maintain; 6) they perform well but are rarely the best performer in their class; and 7) other marques are always trying to copy their looks and sound...but just can't seem to get it right.
     
  25. ART360

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    Frank:

    I'd say the Harley is closer to the Cadillac of bikes than Ferrari. Maybe the Buell, but none of the regular Harleys performs well at all. Their fat touring bikes, with (in comparison to the other bikes on the market) with performance deficits.

    The Buell is effectively an American Ducati, since Eric Buell used to race bevel drive Ducatis in the 70s (I used to race against him, a great guy).

    Art
     

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