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Discussion in 'Australia' started by IanB, Aug 6, 2008.

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  1. scud

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    that bet lasted about 45 minutes
     
  2. scud

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    you're smarter than i thought :p
     
  3. vegas1

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    So who lives near the coast in Oz - the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, allied with ice melt uncertainty information and local conditions, determines that a sea level rise of up to 0.91 metres by 2100 is imminent. This will put a lot of coastal towns and their estuaries under water.

    Pap will be OK in The Isa however when it comes to sea level rise, but projected global warming and extreme weather events will take its toll on Mt Isa as time unfolds.
     
  4. kerrari

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    Actually the whole global warming thing is a bit of a furphy really, because we need to change the way we use carbon-based materials simply because we're using them up far faster than the planet can produce them. Anyone know how many years to produce an oil field or where there are any forests / bogs left with the potential to become oil? I sometimes wonder if the whole GW thing was a PR exercise, to deflect from the peak oil argument, which went haywire.
     
  5. Aedo

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    Not sure that it is possible for the Mt Isa weather to get any worse!!!

    Absolutely Karen - it is not possible to replace fossil fuels with bio-fuels as everyone on earth would go hungry! Coal fields take millions of years to develop - many lifetimes of trees - not something that can be accelerated.
     
  6. Kelsa

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    While all other speices on this planet adapt and evolve as the planet changes, us humans are trying our best to change planet earth to adapt our living and way of life.

    perhaps eating the 'knowledge apple' was going to bring our ultimate downfall.
     
  7. jmillard308

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    2100 is imminent? :confused:
     
  8. Aedo

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    The reasonable man adapts himself to his situation...

    The unreasonable man adapts the situation to suit himself!!

    therefore all progress and development away from the cave is the result of unreasonable men!!!
     
  9. jmillard308

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    I thought we, as a species, had adapted and evolved quite well
     
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    Some more than others. :p
     
  11. Kelsa

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    indeed very well. And most of it is thanks to our amazing intellegence and the ability to learn better than other species (well most of us anyway). but you have to admit we are destorying the planet for our own living, and i think to an extent our consumption of natural resources are excessive. I'm no greenie, but some natural damages are irrevesable.
     
  12. jmillard308

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    No, I admit nothing! :)

    I have a slightly different take on this - I see the planet as a wholistic, ever changing piece of rock floating around the universe. It is subject to both external and internal influences. IMHO, the human race has an infinitesimal effect on the place in comparison to other factors - the sun, magnetic fields, other solar system bodies, the evolving earth core and yes, aliens from other places.

    Having said that, I like trees. :)

    Having said that, I find it incomprehensible how anyone can consider a 200 year old tree can be "old growth". In the overall scheme of things, it has only been here for a nanosecond.
     
  13. SPEEDCORE

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    Everyone has short memories.

    I remember back in the day when the show "Beyond 2000" was cool, they had clowns back then predicting that sea-levels would be 1m+ higher by the year 2000 and pics of half of sydney underwater etc and other nonsense and fast forward to now and the increase has been very small.

    Anyway here is what moretti has been waiting for a link to wiki about global warming :p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy
     
  14. Kelsa

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    that's very true, i have stated that we are not the major cause of it all. but in some way contribute.

    200 year old tree to the universe is a nanosecond, to a human being that's 4 or 5 generations. from riding horse to driving V12 direct injected prancing horse LOL
     
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    The other big bit of crap re this at present is all the hooha about oil prices falling. Most of Europe is on holidays, half the cars in Beijing are off the road, Japan is winding down for Golden Week, plus it's summer in the northern hemisphere so there's virtually zero heating oil (the biggest use) being used - consumption is probably at around half of peak use but prices have dropped what 20%? I wouldn't be hoping for cheap fuel this Christmas...
     
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    To a large degree, environmentalism has become the intellectual home of the people that were suddenly left without a cause when socialism/communism comprehensilvly collapsed in the late 80s/ early 90's. Unfortunately many of these people are now in positions of influence in the educational and political system, so the BS will continue for some time.

    If there is global temperature change, there seems to be confusion over the direction ? Either up or down, because depending on what you read or look at you get conflicting information.

    The second issue is if human activity is responsible for climate change, and if by our actions it can be influenced in any meaningful way.

    The "peak oil" situation has merit in the context of availability and price, but it's not the major cause of global warming ( if it in fact it exists )

    Pollution is a bad thing, and it should be looked at from a product life cycle perspective, not just from the end user perspecitve.

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    Interesting. Thank you very much for the information.
     
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    that is, do you think that the problem of global temperature rise is a fictitious problem and is a substitute for political ideology to influence people from left-liberal positions?
     
  22. knocker

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    Over millions of years the earth will get warmer, people aren’t to blame, this planet is simply moving closer to the sun and eventually all life on it will perish, so book your ticket to Mars
    Unfortunately there’s no one you can blame for this and therefore no sociopolitical leverage.
     
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    Lucky it's not a fuel situation or you might not make it mate :p

    I know I know, it could have happened to anyone , but it didn't , it happened to you ...... I never do silly things :p
     
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    That could have happened to anyone John
    Your so judgemental
    One day you’ll run out of fuel, the oil will run out eventually
    Have a great weekend mate I hope your getting out in that bomb of yours
     

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