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The heater doesn't work! Help!!!

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  1. rharon

    rharon Rookie

    Jan 19, 2011
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    Hi everyone! I just got my 2007 f430 with only 2k miles and the heater doesn't work. For the life of memo can't figure it out. It also feels like the A/c doesn't blow cold granted it's 50 degrees outside. I have all the fan speeds however there is no heat. It was pretty tuff to drive my new car last night with the windshield fogged up.
     
  2. djastral69

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    Is there a button that says 'Stop' if so make sure that it's not pressed or on.
     
  3. hangarsixco

    hangarsixco Formula Junior

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    Does the 07 F430 have a stop button near the climate controls? If so try pressing it this should allow the system to activate. I am sure other 430 owners will chime in soon.

    Good luck.

     
  4. ELP_JC

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    Bump for you :). Got mine a few days ago, but until now didn't realize I haven't tried the heater and A/C yet. Hope they work; will try them both tomorrow.

    I'd start by checking the fuse. Good luck man.
     
  5. rharon

    rharon Rookie

    Jan 19, 2011
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    There are 2 buttons.
    1 recirculation
    2 off

    Tried them both. Still blows cold
     
  6. djastral69

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    Press the Off button and you're good to go!
     
  7. rharon

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    Still blows cold
     
  8. djastral69

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    Did you adjust it to high heat withbthe off button turned off?
     
  9. rharon

    rharon Rookie

    Jan 19, 2011
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    I turned it on hi. Presssed the button in and out. I waited several minutes in between. No luck.
     
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  11. sidned

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    Same thing happened to me last month on my 360. Turned out to be the coolant level had dropped due to a minor leak. Got the leak fixed and topped up the coolant and this sorted it out. Nice and hot in the cabin now!
     
  12. SfefVan

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    Did you start the engine at least for 15 min.? LOL :D:D

    Seriously, check out the coolant level as stated above, there is a good chance this may your root cause.
     
  13. ELP_JC

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    #13 ELP_JC, Feb 24, 2011
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    I have the answer for you buddy; just played with it now, and initially had the 'off' button pressed, and fan worked, but wasn't getting hot air either, which is contrary to what the manual says. But found an easy way to check that your system works, then you can play with it later once you know it operates properly:

    Turn BOTH mode and fan knobs to 'AUT' (leftmost position), then press the 'off' button so it's NOT LIGHTED, which means sticking out. Turn the temperature knob to 'lo' and should start blowing cold quicky on the dash vents, as A/C compressor turns on. Turn it to 'hi' and it starts blowing hot quickly too on both dash vents and floor vents. System works fine. But yes, that 'off' button is supposed to be only for the A/C compressor only, but that's NOT the case; what's new, huh? < he he>. I bet your system will be fine.

    My only concern is most cars leave the damn compressor on when in auto mode, so will have to check on this car. Hopefully it stays off when not needed. It'd be the first, however. Good luck man. Keep us posted.
     
  14. 06Spider

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    There is a control module that can go bad if the car isn't used much. Based on an 07 with 2K miles, yours isn't used much. It happened on my 09 Scud. Same exact symptoms. Doesn't matter if button is in or out. The fan works but no heat or A/C. Dealer needs to order a part and repair, not a DIY.
     
  15. MarcusCLT

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    This just happened to me two months ago however I have a 360 Spider, not sure if same setup as 430? if not, sorry about this message, anyhow, we had to change a small motor which controls the heater and for sure not a DIY job as located somewhere in the engine bay....as stated, 430 could have a different heating system than 360 but what you describe is the exact same problem I had....once motor (thermostat) was exchanged, worked perfectly. As info, the cost for the part was $ 229.36
     
  16. ELP_JC

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    Just wanted to confirm A/C compressor turns on as soon as the 'off' button is released (not lighted), no matter what the temperature setting (just like any other automatic system I've had). Well, that's supposed to be case as according to the manual, that button is an A/C compressor on/off switch'. But in reality it also affects the system, as with the button in 'off', there's no hot air, as OP stated. The temperature knob seems inoperative with 'off' lighted; weird.

    OP, if your system doesn't work properly the way I described it (in full auto mode), then follow the advice of the other 2 fellows. If that was the case, find a buddy with a scanner and check if the ECU threw a code, so you know exactly what to replace. And somebody with a service manual could tell you where the offending component is located. I need to buy it myself. Good luck man.
     
  17. rharon

    rharon Rookie

    Jan 19, 2011
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    Ok, I just warmed her up and I tried the A/C. It seems to work. You can hear the compressor turn on and off. However when you go to heat. Nothing!!! I tried the auto mode on both dials. Still nothing. Also tried with the switch on and off. Nothing. I hate to say it but I am a car guy and I can't figure this out. Any other suggestions. Why would the ac work and not the heater. I wonder if there is a control valve???
     
  18. ELP_JC

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    Yep, as the other folks mentioned, you seem to have a problem related to the control valve, and by that I mean the valve itself, or the source of mechanical power (either vacuum or a motor). If you're not mechanically inclined, and have a dealer around, time to take it in. If you want to investigate, and hopefully find something stupid like a bad mechanical connection (actuator disengaged, for instance), or vacuum leak/no-12V (whatever the case might be), you'd need a service manual. Oh, and to rule out a bad thermostat, just check your coolant temperature gauge (should be above 160ºF), in case you didn't check it before. Good luck, and keep us posted what kind of valve mechanism this car has; I want to know.
     
  19. rharon

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    Checked the fuses. They are good. When you open the coolant reservoir you can see there is coolant in the tank. The temp in the car is fine so that rules out a thermostat.

    I am very frustrated with this issue. Any other ideas???

    You can hear the valves or something behind the dash opening or closing.


    Problem. The nearest Ferrari dealer is 3 hours away. And it was just there before i got it. I had it services before it landed at my house.
     
  20. hardtop

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    I have found it takes quite a while to get heat and the button is confusing. Instead of using auto, turn the temp up all the way. Drive 20 miles and try it with the button in both positions. I once thought mine wasn't working either.

    Dave
     
  21. rharon

    rharon Rookie

    Jan 19, 2011
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    Thanks everyone for your help!

    Well the coolant level seemed to be low. 5 cups exactly. I can't believe that's the difference between a heater working and not.

    FYI.

    The coolant level should be all the way up to the bottom of the filler neck.
     
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  22. Ingenere

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    That's almost unbelievable
     
  23. ELP_JC

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    NOOOOOOOO! It should be 1.5" (40mm, to be exact) below the bottom of the filler neck. It's in the manual man. You need room for expansion.

    My coolant reservoir tank was empty when I got the car (don't know why the hell I paid for a PPI < he he>), and I've put half a gallon so far, but you need several heat/cool cycles for the system to 'burp' itself, and get all the air out. I probably had about 2 cups of coolant missing, plus the reservoir. Will check it a 3rd time later on. By the way, a little bit of air shouldn't affect heater performance, but hope I'm wrong :).

    Just add coolant to 1-1/2" below the neck, and check level every week until it stabilizes. It takes a while. Good luck and keep us posted.
     
  24. rharon

    rharon Rookie

    Jan 19, 2011
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    The filler neck is about 1.5 inches.
    Another words we are saying the dame thing.

    Here is the difference. I could stick my finger in and touch the coolant, yet the heater didn't work. When I filled it up to the bottom of the filler neck the heater works. The difference is 5 cups or 40 oz.

    Crazy
     
  25. wahoo5

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    My heater isn't working and my fluid is low. I looked through my manuals and don't see a spec for coolant. What kind of coolant should I use in an '06 F430? BTW, the car just came back from its annual service. So much for checking the coolant level and topping it off.
     

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