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The Jeremy Clarkson 812 SF Review

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  1. dustman

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    If the feeble mind chooses to process it this way. Can’t help ignorance.
     
  2. KenU

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    Kudos to you, Stick. Well done! Please insert 20 clap emojis here!!!!!!!!!
     
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  5. alfran

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    you might add that the 812 is only 4" longer than the GT3 RS, same width, 1' lower and has 11' more wheel base.....
     
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  6. VladimirB

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    The Top Gear Clarkson video, where he was flying in the F12 over a rain-soaked hill, was one of the key reviews that made me buy my F12.



    Frankly, it's quite hard to understand his change of mind over what is essentially the same, but a bit more powerful car.
     
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  7. LVP488

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    My guess is that - unfortunately - Clarkson is now completely focussed on providing entertainment in a predictable, trade-marked way. With no room for real car passion nor sensible analysis.
    The 812 is almost exactly the same size as the F12, and its has rear wheel steering; so claiming that the 812 feels large and lazy while the F12 feels small and nimble really questions the sanity of the writer ;)
     
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  8. absent

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    Exactly.
    I like Clarkson but he ceased to be an auto journalist/reviewer long time ago when he started to make comedies loosely related to cars.
     
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  9. Golden Steed

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    So I read though all that.

    Now I finally understand what the term "car snob" means.

    The epic levels of butt hurt in this thread because somebody insulted your car is beyond juvenile. Most of you seem to be older men (50+) and you're crying because someone bad mouthed your car. Jesus. You can't just agree to disagree like grownups, you whine like some kid who got laughed at on the playground.

    It appears that Clarkson was not just right about the GT-12 series of cars. He was quite right about their owners as well.
     
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  10. Shack

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    Nope - not safe yet
     
  11. BG23

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    You knew it would illicit a negative response and it did. Problem is much of what you said was factually incorrect, so much so it became clear you hadn't even driven the car.

    If you have a strong and controversial opinion, make sure you know a bit about the subject before voicing it.
     
  12. CETH

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    I can see that you are really try to make some friends in the FChat community....
     
  13. montpellier

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    The 812 test car has fixed position race seats and harnesses. You could not make the 812 more compromised.
     
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    Hahahahaha!!!


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  15. LVP488

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    Interesting, but two things disturbed me:
    1) " you can’t specify the passenger display" - really ??
    2) "One day, when we’re all driving electric cars" - what will really happen is not we'll be driving electric cars, what will happen is that we'll be driven in autonomous cars...
    Besides, the 812 is a masterpiece, that one could immediately feel even during a short test drive - the only unescapable drawback of this magnificent V12 is the car weight.
     
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  16. clockem

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    I have passenger display in my 812. May have been a typo
     
  17. MDEL

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    Through the years I’ve watched many times the brilliant review that Jeremy Clarkson did on the F12 Berlinetta when he drove the car on a Scottish wet road. Then the main aspect he emphasised was the fact that the car had “too much power” for these conditions and after driving mine in an identical but less severe environment, I completely agree with what Clarkson concluded. Aside from the too much power issue on his review he praised every other aspect of the F12.
    Now to be consistent with his previous evaluation of the F12, Clarkson’s review of the 812 mentions the obvious saying that this model is even more powerful than the previous one. This makes me deduce that the 812 has also too much power for a Scottish wet road and probably is equally scaring. On several other aspects of the 812 Jeremy Clarkson words are somehow satirical and certainly not of praise like he did with the F12. Taking into account that the Superfast is a technical upgrade of the Berlinetta, quite similar in size and just different in looks, it seems evident that Jeremy has changed his mind on what a Ferrari GT must be.
     
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    In which case, you buy a TDF and automatically lose 110kg and get the same performance with better handling [emoji6]


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  19. 4_Eff_Sake

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    My GT3 probably has too much power for a wet mountain road here in Victoria, Australia, or the Great Ocean Road, too. (Hell, it’s probably got too much power for a wet Philip Island Raceway as well)

    Except, that’s why public roads have speed limits, Jeremy, you twit!


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  20. REALZEUS

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    If anything, the 812 has more benign handling characteristics.
     
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  21. REALZEUS

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    Someone should inform Clarkson that he can use half throttle; the accelerator pedal is not an ON/OFF switch...
    Anyway, he is not a reviewer, he is an entertainer.
     
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  22. MDEL

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    Unless you are driving the F12 Berlinetta on a track or on a motorway the half throttle seems to be more or less the frontier which separates the civilized drive and the barbarian one. Looking at Clarkson's past and controversial personality, I have to agree with you that he has a natural inability for keeping a Ferrari or a sports car throttle for too long within the civilized half way. The man is for sure a first class entertainer and as you say not a reviewer but, nevertheless, he has that eccentric charisma which I personally enjoy because it makes life seem much less boring.
     
  23. Shadowfax

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    This is where you blew every shred of credibility...you may have thought you had.
     
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  24. Golden Steed

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    This assumes I respect your opinion. Seeing how childish a bunch of spoiled mid-50s old-money dudes can be because someone insulted their car, I've lost all respect for the cats in here.

    Dude ("absent") above said the Daytona handles like "a truck". That's the kind of thing someone who's never done a hard days work in his life would say. I've driven plenty of trucks. For a living. I've never come near one that handled like a Ferrari Daytona. That was a clown shoe statement that you all took as valid because one of your ilk stated it.

    So while you're talking about "credibility", you and your silver spoon fed pals aught to look in the mirror. For those of us who came up hard, that know what really matters (that would be people, not things) we may like nice stuff but we don't value it over all else. I like Ferraris. I think they're sexy. But in the end they are still just cars. Some perspective would do you some good.
     

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