The KIMI SUCKS Thread

If Ferrari start using Kimi to hinder Hamilton I feel merc will start doing the same with bottas. Much better for the fans IMO when the drivers all fight for themselves

 

He still knows what he's doing.
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And what McLaren did with Coulthard for Hakkinen AGAINST Schumacher...But for some reason this is never mentioned here...It is only how Michael got 7 WDC because his team mates always let him pass and blocked the other drivers

 

The biggest edge that Ferrari gives Seb over Kimi is a car that suits his style more than Kimi's.

 

It will not be Carlos, or any other Driver, as Christian Horner is adamant that they are going nowhere.


APRIL 19, 2017

Red Bull not letting Sainz go says Horner



Christian Horner says Red Bull does not intend to release Carlos Sainz from his contract.

Last year, the impressive Toro Rosso driver was linked with a move to Renault, but Red Bull elected to keep him at the junior team and as a 'reserve' for the main outfit Red Bull Racing.

"Carlos has a contract with Red Bull, who brought him into F1 and he's there for the investment they made.

"So at the moment we do not intend to release any of our drivers," Horner, the Red Bull team boss, told the Spanish broadcaster Movistar.

"Carlos is developing and the Toro Rosso is a good car that should give him good opportunities. He's still very young but we value him a lot and that's why we don't want to get rid of him," he added.

Horner was also asked about rumours linking Daniel Ricciardo with Ferrari for 2018, but the Briton insisted: "There are always rumours in Italy."

 

Raikkonen taking "way too long" to find form in 2017

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/raikkonen-taking-way-too-long-to-find-form-in-2017-895053/

 

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So it's 2018 and so far from what I'm seeing, Kimi does'nt suck UNLESS the car sucks over the long haul. In fact Kimi for 2018 is right there with Vettel.

What does suck for Kimi 2018 is what is going on in the pits.

1.) Melbourne - Pit wall makes a bad call on pit/tyre strategy and brings Kimi out with traffic. KImi is not happy. 3rd place finish
2.) Bahrain - somewhat slow launch at the start but an "unfortunate" pit mishap and Kimi has to retire the car. You can tell Kimi's frustration the way he throws the steering wheel into the cockpit of the car not realizing a pit crew member is down....."stop stop stop" and Ferrari gets fined 50k Euro's.
3.) China - an excessive Vettel "Schumi" chop and the pits leave Kimi out during the SC instead of pitting so to block Bottas, after which the race seemed to go downhill for Kimi....nonetheless another 3rd place finish.

 

Vettel's chop really pissed me off. Both team and team mate are screwing Kimi.

 

I totally get Vettels chop.....but that was just too excessive.

 

Karma showed it's head
The chop was excessive
The slow down block from a nice lead must have stung
a performance worthy of barichello
And still a podium

 

He was on much newer tires than Bottas and still did not make a credible attempt at a pass over the last 10 laps. He can drive fast but he is no longer a racer.

 

I'm afraid I must agree with this assessment. This is his last year in F1.

 

I’m not so sure, that Mercedes is a quick car in clean air, and Kimi is sensible enough to know a strong third is better than a crash for second that may or may not come off. As ferrari are happy to throw him under the bus, he may have been playing it cool because he didn’t want the flack if it went wrong, imagine the furore if he threw away third after such a crap race for ferrari all around

 

Ferrari need to remind themselves that they are a TEAM in contention of TWO championships, the WDC and the WCC. Arguably the contract terms / mindset that Schmacher, although I love Scumacher, established in the the team is now unnecessarily become some sort of stupid standard that if the favorite driver doesn't win then Ferrari doesn't need to win the race. That's NOT CORRECT. THEY NEED TO WIN WITH EITHER DRIVER.

 

If Max had not had a penalty Kimi would not have been on the podium.

 

Correct. And if the team hadn’t left Kimi out to rot in an attempt to prop up seb, he could have possibly placed even higher. Considering Kimi was the lamb out for slaughter, I’m extremely happy for his well deserved podium

 

I think Ferrari should apologize to Kimi, get their heads unstuck, and do better in the next race. No more stupid mistakes like these please. The title looks rocky already with the things are going om they need to be way more careful. Their qualifying pace is near the best if not the best with the car showing immense pace in both race and Quailfying meaning it clearly shows that is the best car. Ferrari just need to stop obviously need to favor driver or doing stupid mistakes. They need to stop favor one driver until halfway or until one of the drivers is way head of the other that it will become easily to get him the WDC so favor driver should be pushed until then they should concentrate on getting both drivers to perform at their best. The rate they are they can forget about both if the trend continues.

 

Could someone tell me the last time Kimi made a pass (of someone in P1-4)?

 

Vettel very nearly did a 'Singapore' ,he was lucky Kimi had the sense to back out a bit ,after almost being put into the wall.

He is being screwed left right and center, the Stormy Daniels of F1!

Anyhow he deserved his podium ,he will stand on that top step again soon.

 

If they had thought about pitting him with the Bulls, he could have won with the car he has under him. He returned third after being thoroughly screwed by his own team (again) and saved our blushes. Without him there, our strategy was a total failure with Seb in 8th

Two things need doing - 1, ferrari need to wake up and use Kimi positively, not negatively. They’ve forgotten how the schumi show worked. He always had a back up man, it that man was never ****ed on lap one and then at every step of the race, he was part of the show and 2- verstappen needs the threat of race suspension over his head to calm the stupid out of his driving


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The problem with Ferrari is Ferrari management. They botched Seb's pit stop which allowed Bottas to get in front of him. And they have been unable to motivate Kimi to earn his pay checks. Why waste money on a talented old man who is only willing to drive at that level. There are younger and hungrier and better drivers than Kimi out there. Rossi at the Long Beach GP today. Ricardo, Sainz, Ocon, all should be talking to Ferrari right now...especially Ricardo. Kimi should be retired and replaced within the next 2 to 3 races. And if that doesn't motivate Seb to be less of a Diva, then he can find a new job as well. If the car is strong and fast, and the team has its act together, a combination of Rossi and Ricardo could be the best team on the track.

Maybe Hamilton and Kimi could open a restaurant in SoHo.

 

Having two number one drivers won’t work, it didn’t work for Mercedes properly, they are just lucky their car was half a second quicker at every track, so they could hardly fail to win with one or the other, but two drivers fighting within the team is no good. Ferrari are right to have their main man, and a rear gunner. However, the rear gunner has to have ammo to be effective, Kimi is less floundering with an empty magazine and nothing to fight with.... how can ferrari not see that a strong second driver, that may sometimes be in the lead, is a great thing. Motivated, valued, Kimi will drive better and win the races Seb screws, and vice versa. They can manipulate results way far more subtly than they do at the moment, where even my 22 month old daughter can call their strategy ****.

 

Kimi was in fifth at the restart, behind Max, and would likely have been behind Rici if he had stopped. No way Kimi would have passed Max (or Rici), IMO. If you could answer my query in post #1318 I might change my mind though.

 

If I had no life, I’m pretty sure I could find one pretty recently, but it’s irrelevant really, the difference is, Kimi is used as a blocker or a backup plan, NEVER as a go get em driver, different to bottas for instance. Mercedes have it right there, they use bottas when Elton is having a bad day, and then switch if they are close together to give a result to Elton. Ferrari simply put everything into Vettel, and leave Kimi driving around knowingly on a strategy they decide depending on what happens to Vettel. Difficult for him to do anything with that. However, if Kimi has switched tyres, he’d have passed ricci in the pits, as he’d be serviced just after max and before ricci, and then had fresh tyres to fight with and the fastest car of the three. Until it happens, we won’t know who would pass who, but I think Kimi in get em mode in a faster car wouldn’t be easy to pass by anyone, although max would likely just punt him off


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How did you work that out? Kimi was in front of him after the wonder kid blew his pass on Vettel and span himself around, he followed Ricciardo through


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