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  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    No pics posted of Vettel on the F1 forum driving a Ferrari last weekend with Hammond and May.
     
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  3. ktu

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  4. william

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    The Festival of Speed is becoming a place to be seen, just like Wimbledon or Ascott. It' a mundane occasion for girls to show their new frock, and people to sip champ. It's mostly a display of old cars, some supercars and a few race cars driven on a leach up the "hill". I have been there a few times, and it's every time the same, bar a few cars. It's a place to meet old racers, and this is how I got to speak to John Surtees, Phil Hill or Jim Hall (him of Chaparral fame) in the paddock in the past.
    I can understand why a F1 driver doesn't want to go there every year, so I'm not surprised that Hamilton skipped the event, if he has already been there.
    I am not sure F1 sponsors insist on their drivers being there.
     
  5. NeuroBeaker

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    #2581 NeuroBeaker, Jul 16, 2018
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    Michael Schumacher was not British, and didn't endlessly praise the British fans as his source of strength and motivation, so you wouldn't expect him to make a particular effort for the British fans at British demonstration events. Please re-read this portion of my above post:


    It isn't that he didn't attend Goodwood that irks me. It's that his words and deeds don't reflect one another. If the British fans were as important to Hamilton as he says they are, he wouldn't miss a British demonstration event for Wimbledon or Greek holidays during his active career. It's the insincerity that is so dislikeable.

    All the best,
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  6. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    What is Hamilton supposed to do?

    Give all his spare time to his fans to live up to his words ?

    Who does that ?
     
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  7. ktu

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    Is the Goodwood a British only event? Last time i checked fans of all marks were there. F1 drivers of various Nationaties represent. Again Lews HAS been before. So he has made a particular effort for the British fans at British demonstration events. Do you think he should go every year? If so why? Schumacher gained fans all throughout England, do you not fault him for not coming for the fans once?
     
  8. NeuroBeaker

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    I go out of my way to live up to my words.

    Hamilton should think of these things as a professional commitments during his racing years and insist on being the driver for Mercedes demonstration runs in front of his home crowd. If it conflicts with a race, practice, or training session then that's fair enough, otherwise he should make every effort to be there. The reason for this is because of his assertions for the critical importance of the fans to his performance.

    Had Schumacher been spouting off how the British fans were the best fans and how he just wouldn't have the energy to do all the amazing things he did without their love and support, then I would have faulted him for not attending UK demonstration/PR events too. But, I don't recall him saying that British support was absolutely crucial to being able to put in a strong performance.

    I respect honesty. Räikkönen clearly doesn't give a crap about PR or demonstration events and he's pretty forthcoming about that. Fans of his like that he's so bluntly spoken.

    I feel like I'm trying to explain honesty, sincerity, and integrity to you. If you don't get it by now, I give up.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
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  9. P.Singhof

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    Maybe because "other drivers" do not repeatingly tell that those are the best fans in the world and that he does it all for them. As said, what would people say if the Ferrari drivers would repeatingly skip the Ferrari finals in front of their fans? They have done that in the past as well and I do not think it is pure pleasure for them. And they do not constantly talk about "their fans".
    Lewis is not hold to a different standard than other drivers, he is only held against HIS OWN WORDS...

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  10. ktu

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    I take it your answer is yes, he should go to all Goodwood events. That's fine, we can agree to disagree.
     
  11. ktu

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    So if he does'nt go to all British events and have no life outside of racing then he's not committed to his fans? lol ok. How do you know if he is sincere in admiring his fans? Do you know him personally, do you know whats in his heart? At least he responds to his fans constantly which is more than most drivers has ever done
     
  12. stavura

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    Your posts get more ridiculous by the minute... I mean really??

    To simplify what is said above for you.... If Lewis talks up a good game about his beloved British fans and their importance, he should then practice what he preaches.
     
  13. ktu

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    So if Lewis had been at Goodwood AGAIN this time, would you have said "Look Lewis is faithfull to his beloved British fans"?
     
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    I personally wouldn't of cared, but at least he would have lived up to his words.
     
  15. subirg

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    I think this goodwood thing is being completely blown out of proportion for no reason. I can only imagine it’s because it’s a slow F1 news week.

    A couple of minor observations:-

    1. Hams supporters aren’t all British
    2. The vast majority of Hams supporters aren’t at Goodwood and couldn’t care less about it
    3. See 1 and 2 above.
     
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  17. freshmeat

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    #2593 freshmeat, Jul 16, 2018
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    I'm glad to read people can see through his insincerity. I also love it when he uses the "i wear my heart on my sleeve" bs (which is very often) but then doesn't expect to be judged when he contradicts himself...lol

    Goodwood did celebrate the F1 career of another brit, Jenson and the life of his old man this past weekend. And I guess in Hamilton's defense, his teammate Valteri was in attendance to represent Mercedes AMG F1 so I guess Hamilton attending would be redundant. Valteri got to shoot up the hill in a few classic cars, looked like he enjoyed himself.
     
  18. subirg

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    True. Goodwood is much better for past F1 drivers. Not the current crop. Most current F1 drivers have far too much ego and far too little realisation of privileges they have. Only after all that is lost do they see the light. JB is a great example of that. Great chap now. Same with Webber.
     
  19. P.Singhof

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    Sorry to say that in that clarity but this is complete nonsense....
    First of all I am sure that you have never visited the FoS in person and you do not have a clue what is going on there....We are talking about 200.000 visitors over the 4 days and they are ALL interesterd in cars and racing. Looking at the number of people standing for autographs in front of the drivers club or the assembly area one gets an impression that it makes a difference for them wether Lewis is there or not.
    Goodwood is the second biggest British Event after the GP (in some years even more people visited Goodwood than the GP) and not just a "cars&coffee" in Arundel south...
    Visiting "again"? The last time was in 2014 when he have not even won a single WDC with Mercedes and YOU are the best example that a lot of his "fans" only appeared once he won numerous titles with Mercedes.
    No life outside of racing??? This is a PR event and I would be surprised if his contract does not say exactly how many of these events Lewis have to go to for Team Mercedes within a year, so if he goes to Goodwood instead of something else he does not loose any time. Nobody said he should go there in his leisure time, you can be certain Valterie does not do either.
    And no, I do not know him "in person" but at least I saw him at the FoS in the past and how people react on him, that is most likely more than you experience but still you behave like you are his close buddy and know all about it.
    "Responding to his fans" is writing a few tweets and delete your content as soon as there is some headwind? Wow, that is really an achievement...impressive
     
  20. P.Singhof

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    4.) the majority of the visitors in Goodwood do support him and they obviously care.
    Sure it does not make a difference for an American whether he is visiting an event in the UK but ask those 200.000 who actually visited and the answer is certainly different.
    Lewis is not intended to visit the FoS for 1&2 but certainly for no.4
     
  21. ktu

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    Again Lewis has done Goodwood. I don't think he has to be there every year. Why are you requiring him to be there x number of years? Does he get fan credit last time he went? Or does that not count? Also you are incorrect about me becoming a fan in his Mercedes titles, i've been a fan since he had one of the best rookie years in F1 history.
     
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  22. P.Singhof

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    Once again you try to turn it all around. I do not require him to be there every year but if he is so into his fans as he says he is he would be there every year or at least more often...His fans over there want to see him and he does not show up because he has better things to do but yet he says those are the best in the world and he does it all for them....
    And if you are a long time Lewis fan and you are a ginuine member of this forum for 6 years as you say, where are your "pro-Lewis" post older than 4 monthsr? Or what made you coming out March 20th with tons of posts on a single subject you were not talking about the 6 years before? Did you just realize March 20th that there is a F1 section? ;)
     
  23. fer312t

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    All highly amusing :D
    The Hamilton haters being obsessed with his social calendar and such...
     
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  24. sammysaber

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    Doubt if anyone on this forum is a Hamilton hater - some like myself might not like aspects of his personality -eg when he implied that Kimi had taken him out on purpose etc...the litmus test is whether Hamilton is good for F1, which he is.

    ktu, I think that Neurobeaker very pointedly explained what most of us think - given your little snips on other topics personally think that you are borderline trolling.

    That's my opinion only, but some humility and open mindedness in a Ferrari forum which welcomes non Tifosi could perhaps have built bridges rather than burning them.

    Best,
    Sammy
     

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