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The Mattel Elite Wake Up Line

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  1. lucky_13_2002

    lucky_13_2002 F1 Rookie

    Nov 26, 2006
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    Hi guys.
    I think that Mattel can do so much better in terms of material released and quality of their elite line of Ferraris, that it just does not make sense what they are doing. Someone mentioned that there are people on here that are involved with Mattel in one way or another. Plus it would make no sense in my book, to hold the exclusive rights to Ferrari diecast models and not to do any research and visit sites like this one.

    So my idea is, to make this thread and to put together our wishfull thinking and some reason together and make suggestions as to what Mattel should produce in terms of Ferraris and how they can improve their quality.

    Here we go. I'll start first. I can not believe that for all these years, no manufacturer has made a single model in 1:18 scale of the Ferrari 275 GTB/S. I know about the ERTL attempt, but I mean a real model, not a toy. It is such a monumental model in the history of Ferrari, yet everybody is busy making yet another F40 or Enzo. also it is a key element missing in the family tree when it comes to 1:18 as most of the other signifficant V12 Ferraris are already made. If we look from a business perspective, it also makes sense producing the model, as the car was made in all sorts of colors and it was raced in different events, so there would be plenty of different variations that it could be made in to "milk" the run of the model. IIRC Enzo himself had one.

    Please share your wishes and thoughts and lets hope someone from Mattel would notice.

    Ohhhh and about the quality. If Mattel makes one more Ferrari in this darn age with dogleg hinges on the doors, they should be stripped of their license.
     
  2. Hawaiian35

    Hawaiian35 Formula Junior

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    First of all let me be the first one to actually comment on your thread. I know some people here they just click and read and forget. No decency on at least give a few comments and thoughts about it. I started a thread asking a question about AUTOart releases and i got 100 something views and only 1 commented. Unbelievable..!!
    Ok...I feel you man. Hotwheels produced a lot of Ferraris 1:18 scale in the past, and now they managed to produced their Elite line and Super Elites too.

    My question is when will they make or produce the Ferrari 348 TB/TS 1:18 Elite?
    They produced F355 on regular Hotwheels, but when will they make the F355 Elite?
    I'm also waiting to see if Hotwheels will also produce the 308 GT4 Elite of course?
    I know right now only CMC produced it, but is Hotwheels also going to make the 250GT SWB ( Short Wheel Base )?

    But these models mentioned are just wishes for myself. I don't think Mattel don't give a rats a$$ about our thoughts and wishes. But you know what lucky_13_2002, I bet you if Hotwheels produced the following Ferraris 1:18 scale all in Elites people here will be buying. And yeah even people here that lurks and read threads that don't comment at all will be interested to buy too.

    1:18 HOTWHEELS ELITES:

    1. F355 Berlinetta
    2. F355 Spider
    3. F348 TB
    4. F348 TS
    5. 308 GT4
    6. 275 GTB/S Your wish model.
     
  3. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    I would LOVE for Hotwheels to make a 1/18 GT/4. In red/tan of course. :eek::eek:

    Its a shame they dont listen to the 'little guy'. :(:(

    We can put together any "wish list" we want, I bet they wont do anything for us. :(:(

    One can only hope. I think there was a similar thread here once before where someone said they would pass on this info to Hotwheels and they would look at it. I dont think that ever happened. :(:(
     
  4. bigodino

    bigodino F1 World Champ
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    I agree with the missed opertunities of unreleased Ferrari models. I don't know how their market research works but I'm afraid a 308 GT4 is deemed not popular enough by a large enough group.
    On the other hand they do make the 410 SA, also a model not well known by the average model buyer. So shoot me...

    As for quality: they should fire the guy who makes the tires. What's up with those?

    Having said that some models are quite nice. It's a bit of a hit and miss.
     
  5. canam350

    canam350 Formula Junior

    Jun 23, 2004
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    hi guys.
    i agree with what you are saying,mattel dont listen to the real collectors they are only
    interested in their profits, i would like to see some of the older ferrari models done in elite.
    330 lmb ,275gtb/4spider/coupe, 225s and 250tdf. i think we will be left waiting for these to come out.
     
  6. lucky_13_2002

    lucky_13_2002 F1 Rookie

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    I absolutely agree with the 308 GTB/4 Dino. I think it is the only V8 Ferrari that is not yet made into a model in 1:18. It is the missing link in the family tree, the one that started the most successfull line of production. They were made in great numbers, so just the owners of such cars would make quite a customer base.

    Over all there are FEW monumental cars that Mattel need to produce.

    250 GT Europa
    250 GT TDF
    275 GTB/4/S
    330 GTC/S Enzo had one of those too
    365 GTC/4
    the V8 Dino

    These in my oppinion should be their priority.

    The other thing that I don't get is, how is it possible to have the license for the most famous name in motorsports and there to be an almost 15 year gap in Ferrari F1 models. Not to mention that they are waaaaayyyyyy easier and cheaper to develop. No opening doors or hoods and complicated interiors. If they release one F1 Ferrari a year, they are going to have a following. But no. Some genious decided that they are better off to pay crazy money to George Michael just so they release a black V8 California.

    I don't know why, but I have a feeling they have put in charge people who not only have no passion for models what so ever, but they are also clueless about what they are reproducing.
    I mean take for example something simple as colors. They made an Elite 360 Modena In Red, Black and two Silvers in the Spider. Yet it totally skipped their mind that the car was named MODENA whose color is yellow and it is where the yellow background on the Ferrari badge comes for. Also this is why, when Ferrari let the press test the car for the first time an shoot it for magazines, almost all the cars were yellow. Yet from all models they make, Mattel decided not to make a yellow Modena. Brilliant...........not.
    When it comes to their Ferrari line, I think they have major issues in more than one departament, starting with their marketing.

    I would loooooove, to go work for them and wisper a thing or two in their ear.
     
  7. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ

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    Frankly there is no reason to not make all the Ferrari cars from the late 40's to present. We are talking about some of the most iconic cars ever....

    also if you are Mattel... once you produce wire wheels, engines etc... for one model, you can pretty much use it for the next.. just like Ferrari did!

    I'm more suprised that there are no moderatly priced 512s, M etc...
    and 312 P series. Also would love a model of the original 204 Dino with knockoff wheels. as well as some of the 60's F-1 cars... 159, 312, etc...
     
  8. toddjw73

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    I agree with everyone here. They need to get some of the most iconic cars ever made by Ferrari in the 1:18 Elite line. I see there is quite a few nice ones in the 1:43 Elites. So why the heck not in the 1:18? I DON'T GET IT! Pretty much part of the reason why I may get rid of some of mine (HW) and just stick to the good stuff (BBR, GMP, CMC, Kyosho).

    Just to show the 1:43 Elite List -

    1985 412 - Red, Silver, Green
    288 GTO
    F40
    F50 - Red, Black
    F430 - Red, Blue
    F430 GTC
    F430 GTC #8 - Blue
    F430 GTC GT2 #87 Ecosse 2006
    F430 Scuderia - Yellow, Blue
    458 Italia
    Enzo - Red, Yellow, Black
    FXX Evoluzione
    FXX - Red, Dk Blue, Lt Blue, Pearl White, Yellow, Silver
    FXX #30 - Black - Schumacher
    166 MM Barchetta
    166 MM #22 1949 Le Mans
    Lancia D50 - Fangio
    500 F2 #102 - Ascari
    250 Testa Rossa - Red
    250 SWB #62 1960 Monza - Red
    250 SWB #16 - Red
    250 SWB #22 1960 24 HR Le Mans - Passo Corto
    330 P4 - Plain, #23, #20
    F1 375 #12 Silverstone 1st Victory - Gonzalez
    246 F1 Morocco - Hawthorne
    553 Hawthorne
    312B #18
    1981 F1 126 CK Monaco - Villenueve
    1982 F1 126 C2
    F1-91 Monaco #28 - Alesi
    412 T1 #28
    412 T2 #27
    F2000 - Schumacher
    F2002 - Schumacher
    F60 - Raikkonen

    This is just what I could find on eBay.
     
  9. ItalianHorses

    ItalianHorses Formula Junior

    Feb 16, 2004
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    Its funny to read threads like this one. Mattel is a business, and they are in this business to make money. If something does not make sense from a business perspective, they are not going to do it, period.

    This is one of the reasons they make models like they do, quality and all. They have the license, and occupy a certain segment of the market that brings most profit on each dollar they spend. This also explains why they choose to spend money to produce certain models, and will never make others. This also explains why they could not care less what the customer wants, and will never listen to collectors. Don't waste your breath.
     
  10. lucky_13_2002

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    See, the first paragraph you wrote makes perfect sense. This is exactly why Mattel's actions make no sense and this is exactly why I started this thread.
    Here is a prime example of their nonsense from the money side of things.
    Some time ago they made a regular "cheapo" Ferrari 575M. It was largely based on the 550 molds Mattel inherited from Bburago and Maisto when they bought the exclusive rights to Ferrari. The wheels on the 575M were OK for size but just were not quite accurate. Years later Mattel made the 575GTZ which used the regular 575M wheels. For the pleasure of all of us, they redesigned the wheels and even on the "cheapo" 575GTZ they were correct and way better looking than on the stock 575 from years back. Here comes the confusion. Two years after the GTZ, Mattel released an Elite version of the 575M and they put on it the old inaccurate wheels. From a purely cost effective perspective, they should not have designed new wheels for the GTZ. OK, they were after improving it, fine. But after the money was already spent and you are already producing the new mold, why put the old POS on your newest model. It makes absolutely no sense no matter how you cut it. The only explanation I can think of is, that the person who developed one of the models, had absolutely no communication with the person who made the other model. And worse yet, the person in charge of them was clueless, so he could not catch it.
    This is just one example. One of their biggest problems is the wheel and tire size. I don't get it. A 18 inch wheel will be 1 inch in 1:18 scale no matter what car it is mounted on. So wouldn't it make sense to develop a tire that is kind of universal for the 18 inch equipped cars instead of making a completely new mold for every model, which would not only cost quite a penny, but also kills your reputation as they are very inaccurate?
    I can understand if someone tells me that they don't care about being 100% accurate as they pretty much hold a monopoly over Ferrari diecast, but I don't buy their business plan as far their marketing and cost effectiveness goes.
     
  11. Hawaiian35

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    To me all we could do is suggest. This doesn't mean that Mattel is going to listen. Their business is really not of my business. But if I was the owner of Mattel ( Hotwheels ) I would have them produce a 1:18 version of every Ferrari built all in the Elite version starting from the Spider ( Barchetta ) Touring 212 all the way to the newest release the 599GTO!
    But I'm not, so whatever Mattel can produce I just have to accept it. The only thing with this company is that they are a bit slow producing their 1:18 line. I'm still waiting on their 1:18 Elite 599GTO. I wonder if it's going to be release by the end of the year.
     
  12. Miura Jota

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    I'm still longing for the Breadvan and also the 400 2+2


    That's all I want
     
  13. lucky_13_2002

    lucky_13_2002 F1 Rookie

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    I just got a 250 California (Ferris Bueler's day off) and it is absolutely fantastic. Mattel have definitely stepped up their game. This particular model is on par with Auto Art.
    Now if they only listen and make some vintage F1 from the '60s and the '80s.
     

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