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The Michael Schumacher Career/Injury/Recovery Thread

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  1. GordonC

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    I would doubt the doctors are giving her false hope, but note that Sabine's few press releases always state something along the lines of "The family continues to believe in Michael's recovery".

    Whether the doctors giving her hope or Corinna refusing to give up hope or accept the negative prognosis, I think it is clear that Schumacher's family still wants to believe there is a chance he will recover further than his current comatose state.
     
  2. Aircon

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    I didn't say anything about false.
     
  3. ferraripete

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    I was out at dinner last night and I had a fleeting thought about ms and his future. things look very dark and I think we really need to get prepared for the sad but likely outcome.

    just so damn sad.
     
  4. G. Pepper

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    Take a breath. The guy's in a coma, he's not brain dead. The simplest logic for why he hasn't been transferred yet, is that there is a plan, but it isn't ready. Moving him to an intermediate location would not make sense in that case, for logistical and safety reasons. The time it would take to prepare a facility for him at home answers that perfectly. I think that's the plan.

    Michael undoubtably has a living will. If I had one, brain death or a vegetative state lasting over 12 months would be the trigger to pull the plug. I can't help but think this kind of an arrangement is at least in the ballpark for what is normal.

    Cheers,

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  5. Formula Uno

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    Does he have brain activity or is this speculation?
     
  6. TakoC

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    I'm looking forward to seeing Michael waking up, and subsequently even attend one of the GP. That would be a great thing to see- for the fans, friends etc.
     
  7. Fast_ian

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    He must have 'brain activity'. If not, he's dead!

    Definition, from Dr H's blog a while back, my emphasis added;

    There must still be hope. Corinna and those around him are not fools. Even with all his money, I'm certain that;

    1 - He has one of the best 'medical directive' contracts ever written, and won't want to 'live', even at home, as a so called 'vegetable'.
    2 - There must still be hope, desperate, maybe less than 1% type hope, but hope nonetheless. They wouldn't build (if the speculation is true - the source is ****!) an ICU at home if there wasn't.

    Godspeed Michael
    Ian
     
  8. tifosi12

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    Agreed.
     
  9. RS man

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    Clinicians would NOT do that - they would have been told straight up.
     
  10. Fast_ian

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    No doubt true. Dr H commented that what they NEVER do is say 'we need a miracle'.

    So, given that they've been told 'straight up', and IF the story in the Sun (think National Enquirer type paper!) is true, they must have been told that there's a chance of him getting better. Or they wouldn't be building an in home ICU.

    Godspeed Michael
    Ian
     
  11. intrepidcva11

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    #1 X 5 - IMHO it is virtually impossible, given his decades of living with the potentially lethal danger implicit in motor racing, that Michael did not have a living will to deal with exactly this situation.
     
  12. Drive550PFB

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    Why would you automatically assume that he would want to be taken off life support.

    Given his enormous wealth, he could be kept alive artificially for a very long time. Consider the case of Ted Williams. Wanted to stay alive until they found a cure. Then after he died, wanted his head frozen so he could be revived in some future world when our technology allows that.
     
  13. barbazza

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    Not everyone is crazy.
     
  14. VisualHomage

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    LOL the alleged celebrity "cryogenic" club. Somehow I doubt MS is in that club. But it's darkly and unintentionally hilarious that we are now entertaining discussion about preserving a man cryogenically who is presently a vegetable. I assume you must kidding?
     
  15. Drive550PFB

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    My original statement was that we should not just assume that MS would want to be taken off life support. I stand by that statement. We have no way of knowing.

    The thing I wrote about Ted Williams was to make a point.
     
  16. VIZSLA

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    Its amazing what flights of speculation can be generated by a single unconfirmed report.
     
  17. Fast_ian

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    +1

    And as I said above, hardly the most credible source there is either.....

    Cheers,
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  18. VIZSLA

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    Like it or not there is only one credible source.
     
  19. Fast_ian

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    +1

    Unfortunately, to quote a buddy, "and they're as quiet as a church mouse peeing on cotton."

    ;)

    Godspeed Michael
    Ian
     
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    #2620 Juan-Manuel Fantango, Mar 30, 2014
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    i really hate posting this, and I know I shouldn't. But, there is something here to be said if it does indeed turn out to be hopeless. I have been around long-term care most of my adult life, and it is not the way any of us would want to live. To me it is not living, just merely existing. I realized years ago that this song has some truth to it. He is our F1 hero, always will be. I know that we all hope he recovers, but if he cannot....

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/michael-schumacher-s-wife-building-a-10-million-pound-medical-suite-at-home-502225
     
  21. VIZSLA

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    I wish it were other but out of respect to Michael I'll wait and hope.
     
  22. Fast_ian

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    +1 on both points.

    All we can do right now.

    Godspeed Michael
    Ian
     
  23. VisualHomage

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    Thank you for the clarification. I understand.

    By the way, I looked into the Walt Disney cryogenic story and it's a myth apparently. He didn't have his head or body frozen. I think he was cremated. I can't see how a frozen/freeze dried/freezer burned mummy can be reanimated. And if it could be, then why? You'd be a freak of nature.
     
  24. Andrew D.

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    Room for all opinions here. Eventually time will tell. I have seen many people who survived massive brain injuries. Few wish they had,if they had the ability to express it.
     
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    Its not hard to make new people. Why bring back old ones?
     

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