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The Michael Schumacher Career/Injury/Recovery Thread

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  1. velocetwo

    velocetwo F1 World Champ

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    No myth thats the way Walt wanted it, no fighting over his head, unlike Ted Williams.
     
  2. intrepidcva11

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    Wrong analogy; there is a vast difference between having a disease for which a cure is not yet known but may be discovered, and having massive and most likely irreversible damage to the brain. One doesn't 'cure' a brain damaged to the reported extent of Michael's injury.
     
  3. NeuroBeaker

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    I have done experimentation upon donated human brain samples that were kept frozen for varying time lengths. The freezing process damages tissue samples, the thawing process for use damages tissue samples, and even storing at -80 Celsius does not entirely prevent the decay of tissue. The reality is that for functional experimentation (e.g. receptor-ligand binding assays) no matter what you do, dead tissue remains dead and continues to decay over time no matter what you do with it. You could preserve the structure with a fixative such as formaldehyde, but then it wouldn't behave even remotely like "live" tissue any more.

    Dead people will remain dead, and using cryogenics to preserve sick bodies for future cures is... well, a dead end. :eek:

    All the best,
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  4. VisualHomage

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    LOL and well-stated.
     
  5. VisualHomage

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    Right.

    And if you're of faith, if the soul has "left the building" then what is being reanimated?

    This is a tangent now, but they have found soft tissue and DNA in Tyrannosaurus Rex bones. Imagine that: They can actually feasibly (possibly) create Jurassic Park--sort of. That would be mind-blowing. But how would the animal behave? Would it be mentally insane?
     
  6. sammysaber

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    I think they were supposed to be mentally insane anyway hehe...
     
  7. James_Woods

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    This thread has gone off topic.

    Which might be just as well, considering the topic.
     
  8. VisualHomage

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    Yes.

    This has become a de facto waiting room in a virtual hospital. Occasionally, to break the monotony of waiting, the people in the waiting room take their minds off the original purpose for being there and chit chat about other things. Michael is in a coma and has been since last December. Generally the news is the same in that direction. We all wish it would change but all we have is time and waiting at present.
     
  9. Andrew D.

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    There is often a little humour in the worse situations,thats what makes them bearable. If I didnt do that in practising medicine,I would have gone Jurassic Park long ago.
     
  10. VisualHomage

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    You got it ;)

    As a doctor, of all, you are well aware of this principle. It's our humanity and vulnerabilities surfacing in these times and that is a good thing.
     
  11. stever

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    This today from online Autoweek:
    Michael Schumacher could soon be headed home. British newspapers the Daily Mail and the Sun are reporting that the seven-time Formula One champion's wife, Corinna, is making arrangements for a $17 million medical suite so that Schumacher can continue treatment for his now three-month coma at their home on Lake Geneva.
    Schumacher, 45, was critically injured in a skiing accident on the French Alps on Dec. 29.
    The Daily Mail report, written by Sam Creighton and Allan Hall, said Corinna Schumacher is making the arrangements after she was "told it is unlikely he [Schumacher] will ever wake up.”
    The correspondents quoted a 25-year friend of the Schumacher family as saying, "All the money in the world cannot fix what has happened to him.
    "The family are making arrangements for a future of permanent immobility."

    I can't keep track of overseas news reputations.....these guys reputable?


    Read more: Michael Schumacher may be going home - Autoweek Racing F1 news - Autoweek
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  12. sammysaber

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    Generally speaking, the Daily Mail is no better than the National Enquirer.

    The story's been out for a couple of days ((and a couple of pages ago here), but there's been no official comment re him being moved.
     
  13. jcosta79

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    Sorry but I have lost track... Has there been confirmation of whether or not Michael is breathing on his own?
     
  14. sammysaber

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    There has been no such confirmation, unfortunately.
     
  15. VIZSLA

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    One paper reporting that another paper reported unsubstantiated speculation.
     
  16. Drive550PFB

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    The operative theory on all of this is that technology will eventually get to the point where we can preserve the brain and attach the head to a donor body. Until the technology reaches this level, no "thaw" will occur and the cellular damage will be repairable. (Or at least that is the theory.)




    One source said he was breathing on his own, which was the source of the pulmonary infections as his saliva was causing problems, because he could not swallow on his own.

    I thought this came from a doctor, but this thread is so long, I have forgotten if it was credible.
     
  17. Andrew D.

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    I had a fellow in the office today that had a severe brain injury at age 7 . he is now 20. Partially hemiplegic. Functions intellectually low normal. Was in a coma for 6 months. Surprising recovery? no. Kids brains are resilient. Michael at 45-after 3 months-going nowhere.
     
  18. Remy Zero

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    Gotta be the worst article i've ever read...
     
  19. GerryD

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    I wont say much as its not my place to do so. But much of what you guys have been posting about Mike is all speculation. The family is not issuing one single bit of info to any of the media and neither are the doctors.
     
  20. VisualHomage

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    Yes correct.

    However it's not speculative that MS is in a deep coma whose condition has changed very little.
     
  21. TheMayor

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    Yes, and I think its not speculation that the want to bring him home.

    His condition and the final outcome are speculation but not everything is.
     
  22. VisualHomage

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    You got it.

    Blanketing everything that people post as mere speculation is false.

    Whether an actual "17 million dollar facility" is being prepared for MS's return home is somewhat inconsequential but why would that be a lie? No report of MS's comatose state changing has ever been reported. So what does that tell everyone--that he's in a deep coma and has been since December 29th.

    He's not smoking cigars and sipping brandy by the fireplace with his dog. He's for all purposes incapacitated, a de facto vegetable, and unchanged. Can he change? Yes. People have been in comas for far longer and have awakened. Keep the faith and peace.
     
  23. Sunracer

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    Michael Schumacher latest news: F1 legend's manager says there are ''signs that give us encouragement'' - Mirror Online



    Apr 03, 2014 10:06
    By Byron Young

    The seven-time world champion has been in hospital since Dec 29 - but Sabine Kehm says there is cause for optimism as his recovery continues



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    Reasons for optimism: Schumacher's manager says there are signs for encouragement

    Michael Schumacher's family have been given new hope that the Formula 1 legend is getting better, writes Byron Young in Manama.

    Manager Sabine Kehm rubbished reports that the family are preparing his Swiss home to become a £10m hospital as hope fades for the German.

    Instead she said there were signs that gave cause for optimism.

    "I can only say again: There are signs that give us encouragement'," she said.

    But there was still a delicate balancing act being played by doctors who could not rule out a sudden set-back as they continue to attempt to bring him out of the coma.

    If he should make more positive steps the next step, according to reports in Germany, would be to transfer him from the hospital in Grenoble to a rehabilitation clinic.

    Kehm strongly refuted suggestions his home was being prepared for long term care by wife Corinna, 45, because hope of a recovery had faded.

    "The rumours that Corinna remodels her house to bring the supposedly 'hopeless case Michael' home, are absolutely groundless," she said.

    Michael Schumacher latest news: F1 legend's manager says there are ''signs that give us encouragement'' - Mirror Online
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  24. tifosi12

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    You beat me to it.

    This is actually for real as it is based on an interview Kehm gave to Bild.

    - There is a little bit of hope and they expect him to wake up at some point.
    - MS is supposed to be moved to a rehabilitation clinic after he wakes up.
    - The rumors about him being moved home are wrong.
    - Construction is underway at his home, but it is for his father.

    http://www.bild.de/sport/motorsport/michael-schumacher-skiunfall/michael-schumachers-zustand-verbessert-sich-35342152.bild.html
     
  25. Fast_ian

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    Thanks for that confirmation. A tiny, teeny, bit of good news to wake up to. :)

    That she also, once again, rubbishes the UK gutter press shouldn't come as any great surprise.

    Godspeed Michael,
    Ian
     

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