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  1. WILLIAM H

    WILLIAM H Three Time F1 World Champ

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    He's a socialist wanker, probably a Prius jockey

    These people are impossible to reason with

    I like to remind them that good old Adolf was a fellow socialist who would agree w them
     
  2. Ashman

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    Could be. As I said, it's hard to tell the two parties apart these days!
     
  3. Ashman

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    Thank you. Oh yes, now it is no longer "global warming", it's "climate change" (whatever that means) isn't it?
     
  4. mwr4440

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    Fuel Load: 505 Gal
    Range: 275 Miles
    M1 Fuel Economy: 0.5445 MPG (Roughly equivilant to a Detroit SUV :D) Well it IS a type of SUV.

    Considering the thing weighs 73 tons loaded, that ain't bad. And it will run on almost ANY combustable fuel (even Jack Daniels).


    Useles Info: Approx 17 gallons burned when starting and bringing the engine up to temp.
     
  5. 2000YELLOW360

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    Let's talk about that peer reviewed study: Author: Arthur B . Robinson. He isn't a climatologist. Look at his resume: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_B._Robinson Noah Robinson is probably related, and he's a chemist. His resume: http://www.oism.org/oism/s32p1846.htm Willie Soon is an astrophysist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Soon

    As you can see these guys are really qualified to write an analysis. Indeed they are employed by a Republican "think tank" to spout the party line: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_Public_Policy_Institute

    LASTLY IT ISN'T A PEER REVIEWED PAPER. NOPE ANOTHER FRAUD:

    take a look at this analysis which points out why it's a fraud:

    http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/GlobWarm0.HTM

    In short, you've got to do your homework here. Too many people commit way too much fraud on the internet, and if you don't do your homework, you get sucked into this level of fraud.

    Sorry it took a day or so for me to pull all this up, but I thought you'd rather get the full story.

    Art
     
  6. TexasF355F1

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    You know if Adolf existed today with all the media surrounding him, his response would be something similar to, "I had no clue exterminations were going on; what are these concentration camps you speak of?"

    And the idiots would believe him. Remember, some of these people are actually trying to change history by removing any trace of these and similar events from all history books and rewriting the stories.


    I noticed this lately as well. They've moved away from 'global warming', to 'climate change'. Make up your GD crazy minds!
     
  7. 2000YELLOW360

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    Adolph wasn't a socialist. The party was named like that, but there is no way that he was a socialist. The party stood for capitalism, worked with companies (some of which were American) during the war, and provided no socialist benefits, indeed, he was very anti communist, and thought that the rest of Europe should help him with his attack on Russia. Take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolph_Hitler#Economy_and_culture

    Art
     
  8. ross

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    who has been telling you this bullsh!t? cars in europe have catalytic converters just like in the usa. the octane difference is true, but it wouldnt extend mileage by that amount. think you are comparing apples and oranges.
     
  9. Napolis

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    In most countries (including all of Europe and Australia) the "headline" octane that would be shown on the pump is the RON, but in the United States, Canada and some other countries the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON, sometimes called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI), Road Octane Number (RdON), Pump Octane Number (PON), or (R+M)/2. Because of the 8 to 10 point difference noted above, this means that the octane in the United States will be about 4 to 5 points lower than the same fuel elsewhere: 87 octane fuel, the "regular" gasoline in the US and Canada, would be 91-92 in Europe. However most European pumps deliver 95 (RON) as "regular", equivalent to 90-91 US (R+M)/2, and even deliver 98 (RON) or 100 (RON)
     
  10. Napolis

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    #60 Napolis, Jun 10, 2008
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    In Sicily you can still park a Ferrari anywhere and walk off to get a Cappuccino and when you return people will thank you and say "God Bless You". That said your question is a good one and I hope we're not whistling past the Grave Yard...
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  11. vvassallo

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    #61 vvassallo, Jun 10, 2008
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    BoT (Back on Thread), I have never experienced or witnessed negative reactions to exotic cars here in CA. Of course, we are car nuts even the greenies (secretly). Intellectuals know that driving your collector car once a week or less isn't a threat to security, global warming or precious petroleum resources. Exotics are not recycled, but kept (good point from an earlier post). My 348 gets ridiculously good mileage. I drove the sucker down to SD from LA and started on a full tank. I was shocked to drive the 120 miles and use barely a quarter of a tank. Try that in a Hummer. On the other hand, my 996TT used 1/4 tank driving up to Santa Monica and back on the freeway. Go figure.

    There also are just not that many exotic cars on the road to warrant the attacks. We are a high profile target, but there are far more plentiful targets among the SUV owners. Also, we love to attack SUVers for other reasons besides gas consumption - impracticality, unsafe handling, improper driver training for them, etc. So, knock on wood, I feel pretty safe from the greenie terrorists cruising around in my 348.

    Hey, like the housing crisis, do you think there will be a time when someone just parks their bloated SUV on the side of the road and mails the keys back to the bank 'cuz they can't afford to drive or insure it anymore? Call it Suburban Crisis. Wishful thinking. :p
     
  12. TexasF355F1

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    Don't want to stray off topic. But I wasn't replying regarding him saying Adolf was a Socialist. I was refering to him being a smooth talker, just like every other politician. No matter how many facts are brought forth, politicians are "great" at down playing and denying any wrong doing.

    I've read a few things on WWII as well as a book on Adolf, althought it's been many many years. I do recall Ford being his number one supplier of tanks.

    Ignore and back to the topic at hand.
     
  13. desmomini

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    Your point is well taken. My prior car was a Mini Cooper. It's all I needed with a wife and two small children, at least for 50 weeks of the year. At Christmas, I'd rent a vehicle from Hertz to schlep the wife and kids to visit my family and her family, packed full on the way up with luggage and gifts to give, and packed full on the way back with dirty clothes and gifts received.

    One Christmas, I rented a Navigator. Stopped on the way home from the rental agency to run a few errands, and came out to find a note under my windshield reading, "It's all about you, isn't it?"

    Given that, at the time, my carbon footprint was more like a toe-print, I found it pretty funny.
     
  14. Ashman

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    Here's a question: What is the proportion of CO2 in the atmosphere?
     
  15. WILLIAM H

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    Mussolini was a communist party member originally then he became a socialist, Adolf based his Nazi party on Mussolini's fascism.

    Hitler ABSOLUTELY was a socialist, he nationalized plenty of companies and trusts and did a lot to help what he considered to be his German Aryan people

    He was very much anti capitalist, He saw the Jews as capitalists and that was 1 reason he hated them

    before the Nazi party took over Germany nazis & communists in German Congress voted together

    Stalin hated Hitler and created propaganda to state that Hitler was not a socialist

    Dont believe Communist propaganda
     
  16. ross

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    all correct jim. that wasnt the part that i was refuting though.
     
  17. wetpet

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    i pulled into the gas station in my lambo last night and the local news was interviewing people about what they thought of the price of gas. They walked over to my car and said "we are not even gonna ask him what he thinks about the price of gas". It was hilarious. they went on to tell me that they had interviewed a hummer owner the previous day and had to tape him in shadow because he didn't want to identify himself.
     
  18. Napolis

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    I was unclear. Sorry. Just meant to say that the Octane in Europe isn't that much higher when measured by the same standard as one might think.
     
  19. BigTex

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    LOL, wetpet....

    I did much the same in my Ferrari the other day...since I only had $20, I said "Why not get some of this $4/gallon Premium, you know, live a little......"


    I normally run the Regular as my 308GTB just doesn't care.....
     
  20. PanteraVegas

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    Finally, a topic that I feel uniquely qualified to talk about (as a non-Ferrari owner).

    My car gets 8.5mpg and prefers to run on 100 octane although I usually just run premium. I think it is also a more obvious gas guzzler than many of your cars. If you heard it you would understand.

    Having said that, I have never had anyone say anything negative about my fuel consumption. In the past few months, people have started asking what kind of milage I get, but all they say is "wow" when I tell them.

    I think people will continue to admire exotics, and most of the haters are victims of class warfare more then green sensibilities.

    R.
     

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