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The Next Super Car

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by jaa1359, Aug 12, 2016.

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  1. jaa1359

    jaa1359 Formula Junior
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    Has there been any official confirmation that Ferrari is developing a successor to the LaFerrari. Do we know that they are committed to launching a Super Car every decade?
     
  2. Nelsonc275

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    I would assume so based on everything else that is happening since the IPO. They are really trying to crank them out. I bet someone like Peter would be more informed.
     
  3. NürScud

    NürScud F1 Veteran

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    Someone posted an article in the LaFerrari picture thread that mentions how will be LaF's successor and that Ferrari is started to develop a new platform. It was from an American site/blog/magazine, i don't remember.

    But IMHO i believe that it is a little bit too early to bring a LaF successor.
     
  4. Traveller

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    I bet you it is sooner than 10 years. SM needs the cash and Maclaren's new model launch rate is prodigious.
     
  5. NürScud

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    I don't have any reason to disagree with that.
     
  6. maha

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    there is ordinary(?) laferrari.. then laferrari spider.. so why not a laferrari speciale..
     
  7. NürScud

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    Not possible. Ferrari made FXX K.
     
  8. jlonmark

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    It's going to be called "El Ferrari"
     
  9. kingjr9000

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    Sure they could. They could easily use a lighter battery system, more expensive engine components, an even more striped out interior, and then make it road legal. Ala Laferrari competizione
     
  10. 250P

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    Yes we have China, Russia, the Stan's, etc this time around, but 'now' is the time for them to cash in. 200 Chirons already sold (deposits..), LaF at auction goes for.., 675LT, GT3 RS, 918 etc sold out and possibly worth twice the sticker price after you collect; classic status or provenance not needed. Late 80's here we are. How long will the 'now' continue before we hit XJ220 esq early 90's post boom territory is anyones guess.
     
  11. simsko

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    It's always an interesting conversation if prices have established a new normal or if they are over inflated relative to demand or relative to past price relationships between different areas of the supercar world.

    But building a hypercar just to maybe cash in sooner is pretty risky as the profit margins relative to development costs would be much lower for the flagship mr hypercar as opposed to the more "normal" offering of 488 etc. Plus numbers would be limited and Ferrari don't exactly play the market for their prices.

    Most automakers don't really break tradition (Tesla was the first ipo in a hundred or so years) so personally I can't see a new hypercar 5 years out especially when the laf aperta isn't even fully delivered. Responding to hype by Mclaren may not be an especially wise move and it will also depend on what Porsche end up doing as well.
     
  12. NürScud

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    Maybe the one you describe could easily be the Evo version of the FXX K.
     
  13. jaa1359

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    I more referring to the tradition of the anniversary car and launching a whole new super car, not the extensions of one already in existence.

    288 GTO
    F40
    F50
    Enzo
    LaFerrari
    ?
     
  14. jpalmito

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    I wonder if there will be a rear engine v12 based on the new modular platform?
    With this new platform ferrari could offer a front engined v12 aka f12 and this at the same time.
     
  15. Igor Ound

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    LaFerrarissimaMassima "the revenge"
     
  16. Igor Ound

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    Hyperferraris are custom built from carbon so, no.
     
  17. Ferrari FXX

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    No official confirmation but I'd bet that Ferrari will have a super car ready for the 80th anniversary of the company's founding, 2019 or 2020 some where in that neighborhood.

    The FXX program is the platform for which the new car will come from. Yes they make those FXX cars for cash cows but those cars are also testing platforms for the next Ferrari halo car.

    We're probably talking over 1,200-1,300 HP. 1,000 from a NA V12 with another 200 HP coming from an electric engine which the electric engine and battery pack will be much smaller, less weight. Car of course will have butterfly doors.

    Hard to say what the next generation of Ferrari styling will look like.
     
  18. Bas

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    Ferrari's next flag ship will come 2022 or thereabouts. '18/19 is way too early.

    1200+hp NA V12 is neigh on impossible, unless they make it a 9 liter engine (which they won't). Ever tightening emission regulations alone will see to that.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the next hypercar be a V8 turbo + KERS in all honesty. Though I'd prefer an N/A V12.
     
  19. jpalmito

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    The next hypercar surely Will be based on new 6.5 v12 plus improved hybrid system.
     
  20. Ferrari FXX

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    It will be a V12, Ferrari isn't doing away with V12 it will always have a V12 but they'll use more Kers tech and bigger electric engine. Ferrari has guaranteed it won't kill the V12.

    The V8 line will use turbo.
     
  21. 95spiderman

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    Need tp put the e motors on the front axle. 1000 plus hp rwd is ridiculous in street car
     
  22. Valkyre

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    My only wish (though it seems its not happening...) would be for it to be a NA engine and not a turbo one...
     
  23. Traveller

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    I think you are half right. The V12 isn't going anywhere. They will add better Kers technology but N/A + Kers is the future here. I think that is pretty indisputable.

    Whilst the logic of the V8 remaining turbo is an easy option, I think Ferrari have been a little surprised, even shocked by the market reaction to the Cali T and 488. Yes they have produced an amazing motor for a turbo, but they have lost that major differentiator to Maclaren and I don't think take up is as they would have expected. Consequently I think it is possible that after the V12, Kers technology will drift down to the V8 range and that this turbo era might be just a convenient stepping stone and something of an anomaly.

    Furthermore, if you spend all the R&D to develop genuinely usable and effective Kers, why only keep it for two models in the range?
     
  24. Caeruleus11

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    Excellent points!
     
  25. aviator88

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    Agree that NA V12 + KERS is the way forward, but with the addition of KERS driven electric turbos. Plenty of R and D with eTurbos currently, especially Audi. So not strictly "Naturally Aspirated", but with eTurbos taking over from exhaust gases, at least there may be some retention of the V12 sound.
     

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