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  1. amenasce

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    Looks great in yellow! Did they start it?
     
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    If they did it would've been after I left (~8:45p). Come to think of it, this is the second time I've seen the car (also saw it during Universo in Maranello) and have yet to actually hear it.

    It does look good in yellow. My personal favorite is still the grays with yellow touches. I bet you could get pretty creative with other schemes.

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    I like it. But is it a $600k car? It's crazy how expensive they have gotten. $600k was Enzo money...
     
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    Andrew, let's be honest, $600k was never Enzo money in reality.
    Even folks who technically bought them at that price (official MSRP), in reality paid multiple of that when you account for all the expenses they incurred while getting in Ferrari Gods good graces.
    It's a game like in a Casino, the only winners are the Casino owners in the end.
     
  8. amenasce

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    For the Enzo, i disagree. You had to be a good customer for sure, but they had not implemented the game yet where you needed to purchase the less desirable cars to get one. Most of the Enzo owners i knew then were all great customers but they bought what they wanted. But then at that time, i lived in Europe so maybe it was already in place here (although my father got one in the USA without buying any Ferrari he did not want. All it took was a letter to Montezemolo that i wrote :)
     
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    A valid question and I would say yes because of two reasons. 1. The car is practically sold out, or at least the demand is there for it. 2. An Aventador SV is the same money. Personally I'd rather have the SF90.
     
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    Europe was still much easier in this regard, here in US, the dealer games were already as much ridiculous as they are now.
    It seems EU has caught up, over the last 50 years I have witnessed Europeans enthusiastically adopting all the worst flaws from US eating habits to the most embarrassing cultural phenomenons.
    Most folks would not admit to it nevertheless it is happening anyway.:oops:
     
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    Details! Was this in LA?
     
  14. F1tommy

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    Yup. We had a few nice tours like this in Ravenswood with Fuelfed back a few years ago, although not as many Ferrari's or race cars. Would like more of these events around here, and we have the cars in the area.
     
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    Indeed! Last Saturday evening at the Petersen - there are several other cool clips on Las' Vimeo page ...

     
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    Red f12 or super fast going south into lake Zurich around 430pm today
     
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    That sounds dangerous. Hallucinogenics and Lamborghinis don't mix. ;-)
     
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  20. amenasce

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    I was serious about the letter. He replied to us and then got a letter from FNA to let him know he would be "allowed" to buy an Enzo. He had tried to go through his dealer but at the time, he had purchased just one new car from the dealer (360 F1), because all his previous Ferraris were bought in Europe, South America...So his dealer obviously disregarded him, which is normal. After the letter, they changed completely and have treated him like a prince.
     
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    I didn't doubt that for a moment.
    Your Dad is obviously well known at the factory so a dealer's opinion or decision would be irrelevant in this case.
    On another note, I really wonder how much this CV disaster will affect the current politics of getting a Ferrari one would want.
    I really believe the overall demand for that type of cars will drop very, very significantly in the near future, once folks realize the real negative impact on economy and personal income.
     
  22. JP365

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    I’ve been thinking about this as a general “fun cars/life values” question as well. Will people come to the realization that the world economy is in a lot more precarious situation than they had previously realized, or will people move towards a life is short might as well have fun position? My gut is most people are realizing there is an economic butterfly effect going on and will try to save more and reduce debt. If that becomes the situation, only those with true F-you money will be buying exotics. Using the Great Depression as a historical reference, the 1935 Ethel Mars Duesenberg would be a comparable example. Mae West turned it down because 20k was too rich for her blood, but Ethel Mars made 5x that on her race horses alone.
    OTOH, many people today have a short memory and barely think twice about the 2008 meltdown, so it could be back to business as usual in 5-10 years.
     
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    I agree. I think the vast majority of cars will drop a good 20/30% if not more if we cant restart the economy soon, which apparently will be April 30Th in the best case scenario..but even then i dont see a V shape recovery. A lot of people will be in debt and will have no money to go out/indulge and those who will have cash, will still wonder how safe it is to go out, seat in a bar or movie theater or walk in a mall surrounded by other people..Or even go to the gym.
     
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    It looks like I will be very busy at work when my vacation ends this week. Yes, even aircraft in active or prolonged storage require maintenance.
     
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  25. F1tommy

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    Very true, until May/June when they really start to pull down flights. They will park most of the aircraft at another airport if this goes for a long time, but they can't lay people off if they took the government bailout for I guess 6 months. Catch 22. Chicago is one of the highest priced airports to store or land at. Higher landing fees than JFK and LAX.
     

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