The (one and only) '0846' Debate Thread

I have two simple questions.

1.) If Ferrari has been so fast to have replica cars siezed and sued individuals around the world for trying to pass off a fake, why havnt they done so in this case? And....

2.) If, after stating the car was destroyed, they have later issued authenticity of this car by giving it a garage, are they not saying it is in fact authentic?

Ferrari has answered both of these questions. And I am also pretty sure they monitor this website as well as any discussions involving this particular car. Most mothers know their children when they see them, no matter how long they have been away. Ferrari would also be the final authority to claim this cars heritage, over anyone elses opinion in the world.

 

Erik N.,

1000x - ?!? are guessing or do you know?

Art S.

 

I will neither confirm nor deny...

 

I'm trying to use some logic here - Jim likes cars from around '67 - I remember he expressed interest in a McLaren but I doubt that is more intriguing than 0846. Unless Jim found the third Bugatti Atlantic Coupe or an original shark nose, I'm at a loss.

I've got it - 002 is actually one of the first two cars...

Oh never mind, I don't know.

Good night,

Art S.

 

Art:

Trust me, this story will have more twists and turns than the Davinci Code when it is all done.

I'm not saying anything other than "you're going to love it".

Erik

Napolis - Did I give too much away?

 

The only thing I can think of is the GT40 roadster that was cut in half and buried under some thick concrete somewhere near LAX. That would be a hell of a story!

 

Not at all.

 

Art,

The third Bugatti Atlantic was found in France in 1965, and she is still doing great in France where she spent all her life!
Nicolas Seydoux (The chairman/president of Gaumont Films) owns the car! He is the owner since 1974, and I doubt it if he would ever sell his precious gem!

 

Maybe he's planning to obtain the Ghia Norseman and restore it. That WOULD be front page news.

 

Yes, but it wouldn't matter, because the S/N has rusted off the chassis

 

Aren't there 4 Atlantics (if you count the Aerolithe with the flat T57 grille)

 

King Neptune will supply the provenance for that one.

 

Right,
But the Aerolithe is still waiting to be found......actually some people believe there were two Aerolithes which appeared at different times!
However they have both vanished and has yet to be found!
There are currently two projects of recreating this magnificent car,
One in Canada and one in Germany!
But that's a different story which has no place here!

Best

Carsten

 

....and of course Jay Leno's Atlantic "recreation", but on a real T57SC chassis

 

Ah yes, but does anyone know where I can find the Fiat 238 transporter show in Mr. Massini's post #1180 on page 59? It would be a good partner for my 238 'wohnmobile' campervan!

(It must have been a painfully slow journey delivering all those chassis/body bits with a 1438cc pushrod powered Fiat!)

 

Righini has a lot of old trucks and parts...

 

Very Cool!

 

I second that....but most peole would probably prefer an earlier VW bus with the windows around the top.....NOT me...

 

HS Sorry
Bugattiart do you know the French magazine "Automobile historique" numbers 46 44 43 41 with a very good and long article on Atlantic & Aerolithe ?

 

That magazine is difficult to find in the US. Could you please give a short recap of the story of two Aerolithes?

 

Sorry for the English
When you tell of two it's from the Aerolithe and the torpedo competition 57S ?
For the author (Paul Badré) the Aerolithe become the tank 57G driven by Veyron in Le Mans 57 And finished as 57S 40 and 45 with 50B motor. Missing
The Aerolithe is a competition car not for the road (car is not conform and elektron is not for a long time because oxydation) and designed for Le Mans, but drivers does not want a coupe.
The torpedo became the 57 G (because modification of rules of Le Mans) which is always alive.
Do you want another thing ?

 

Thank You!

So:
Aerolithe> T57 Le Mans 1937> T57S40> T57S45/50B
T57S torpedo> T57 Le Mans 1939

Correct?? (J' parlis Francais petit pois)

 

Correct ! Torpedo T57 le Mans 37 (one of the three cars) Your French is better my English !!!!

 

It's nice to see that even guys who get to play with the world's truely great cars can appreciate something as wacky as a Fiat 238 van! I have hopes that someday it'll be bought by a vintage racer who will put in the minor body work it needs and a paint job and turn it into the ultimate paddock vehicle! The old pictures of the ones used as Fiat/Ferrari/Lancia support vehicles are so cool! I doubt it'd tow anything heavier than one of the 1-litre Abarths but it'd sure be interesting to hang out in between races. (grab a beer from the fridge, cook up some lunch, wash up in the sink...). Until someone I know would take care of it decides they want it, I'll just keep driving it around the bay area.

 

Salut Gilles,
No I am sorry, I don't know this magazine.....we have none or only a very few French magazines available up here!
My father in law get his "La Vie de L'Auto" sent from France every month, and that is the only French magazine I get to read once in a while!
My French is really bad, but I really want to learn someday!

á bientôt

Carsten