The (one and only) '0846' Debate Thread

Steady on there. I draw the line at SRV! You need some Hound Dog Taylor in your life...
Just kidding, thanks for the kind words - it seems like the clearest and most obvious explanation to me...

 

You'r absolutely right.And part of the enjoyment is that there are still unanswered questions that may never be resolved. just one man's opinion tongascrew

 

True, although according to Norman Dewis, the factory would also mix and match during rebuilds.

 

They were racecars, and the factory used what was available to race them.
In todays world parts get mixed and matched to either complete cars or to create new ones.
D-Types will forever be an example of this happening, since two cars with identical chassis numbers pitched at a meeting. The situation around these two cars has long been rectified.

 

With a friendly wave to Sumlin, I add the below:

Here’s how I remember an interesting story in AUTOWEEK about a similar situation with a “C” Jaguar.

A noted Jaguar restorer in the San Francisco area became aware of the rumor that there was one of the few – and very desirable - “C” Jaguar cars up in the wine country. The rumors were specific that the car existed, but vague as to the drivability and condition.

After 20 or more years, the restorer located – in the proverbial barn - and bought the car in parts; engine here, transmission there, body disassembled in the hay room, rolling chassis in the feed room.

The restorer, content that the price of the car - and the probable authenticity - were right, took everything home.

The chassis number had been covered with a welded gusset, probably the remains of a long forgotten race repair. Careful removal revealed the complete and unaltered number – which was a correct CJag number.

The proud new owner (this was before the internet) quickly located his list of the registered C Jag owners, and their chassis numbers.

To his surprise, there were not one, but two cars registered with the same serial number, one in the US, and one in England !

The Napa Jag engine number should have matched the chassis number, but did not. No surprise with Jag engines in general, and race cars in particular. With research, it was found that the car had a verifiable history on the West Coast. Records of an engine replacement were found, and the Chassis number verified.

So, this would be the third car in the C Jag registry with the same number……

When contacted, the US registered owner revealed that he had many years ago found and repaired the original engine, and built a car around the engine from parts; later registering the car.

The English owner offered that his car was a complete “bitsa” car, with no “original” parts. He had built the car before the registry had been published, and when published, found an “empty” serial number, and “assumed” the number.

With some discussion between owners, here’s how things played out:

The English owner retracted his chassis number,
leaving only two contenders.

The American replica owner negotiated a swap
to put the original engine back in the original car,
and also retracted his registration,
leaving only the correct car on the list.

Scott

 

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=6074596#post6074596

 

That's cool.

 

Amazing work. Those guys on AF never cease to amaze.

 

Oh, my. That combination of *essence* and *accident* makes the model modal.

 

It looks like we will be taking 0846 back to Daytona to Parade the 24 Hours of Daytona next January.
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That is excellent news Jim. My dad will be particularly pleased by this.

 

Here's an interesting triva question for you.

What do the A and C on the header stand for?

 

...I'll keep my mouth shut....

_J

 

Have you tried to get Chris Amon to drive it? I assume Chris drove it originally at Daytona (?).

Pete

 

would have special.

 

He did with Lorenzo Bandini.

I will be driving her.

Best

 

I give in...........

 

At Le Mans you weren't allowed to add water for the first 400 miles so Ferrari put a valve below the header tank so if they had to they could without adding water from the Pit.

A/C is italian for open/closed

Aperto/Chiuso

 

Amon and Bandini
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Wonderful, Wonderful Photograph!!

 

I know this is a very old thread, but I can't find an explanation for this tire sizing (4.75 x 10.30 - 15 R). could you explain me?
15 for rim diameter OK? but the other two numbers??

thank you very much!

 

4.75 inches is the height of the tire from the wheel to the top of the tire.

10.30 inches is the width of the tread.

 

thank you!

Actually I'm preparing some graphics comparing the grip of first 'monoposto' cars (1920s) through the 60s until Kyalami'68 (last race without wings). For me is the end of an area, and an end of a forgotten style of driving ('under-control drifting', as Fangio said once).
I needed those tire sizings.

If you guys are interested in the results, I can post them.

ok, back to Excel!

 

That would make it a 255/45/15 in todays sizes as seen here.
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