The (one and only) '0846' Debate Thread

It's great to see you posting again, Jim.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Music to my ears.

Saw on another unnamed forum that you've recently made another special (and so far unnamed) purchase, congrats! Hopefully you'll be able to be able to reveal it soon, my money is on the Le Mans winning 250lm or a certain something from Jim Hall I believe you've had your eye on.

 

"According to Mauro Forghieri, chassis 0846 was destroyed after Le Mans '67."

Steve Robertson



>Dear Mr Glickenhaus
I will try to clarify my statement regarding the subiect matter.
It appears that the greatest point of misunderstanding lies in the use of
the words
'scrapped' and 'destroied'.Because I did not,at the time of my answering
Mr Robertson inquiry, have a clear picture of the contention,I failed to
differentiate
between the two words,and may have used them as synoinoms.

Now let me clearly state that,when pieces (or even a whole chassis)where
discarded from our dpt, we did not engage in any activity intended to
phisically destroy it:we merely sent it to the scrap yard,and were no
longer concerned to what happened to it.

Because we are talking of long time ago,when Ferrari memorabilia trading
was not
as developed as it is to day,nobody had much interest in the eventual
destination of wrecks.

Mauro Forghieri

"Mauro Forghieri did not engineer the engine mount modifications seen on the Glickenhaus chassis.

According to Mauro Forghieri, Ferrari never would have accepted such modifications."

Steve Robertson

I cannot of course rule out
that thos
modifications have been carried out elsewhere,perhaps even by another
Ferrari departement.
In the hope to have been of some helps
Have my best
Mauro Forghieri

 

Glad you got that MF misinformation straightened out.

Must be thrilling to have wheels in motion with actual SG sale & pending, let alone LM developments.

I like the aside about John.

 

Hear, hear.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Good news all around.
You'll be at LRP Labor Day
?

 

Thanks for posting, Jim!

 

would obtaining a red book from ferrari classiche settle this debate once and for all?

 

Yes with 0846.

Best

 

In my short time witnessing these types of debates, I can say that my impression of Classiche documents is that they seem to fuel debates rather than settle them.

 

It would but Classiche's stance on this car is well known so it will not happen.

 

Firstly NONE of my cars have been nor ever will be submitted to Classiche. Twelve years ago I clearly publically stated that under Classiche's self written rules 0846 could not be classiched. Once again nothing new here. In light of 0818, 6045, etc., etc. what Classiche thinks about anything doesn't interest me.

That said you never know. Years ago Marcel Massini wrote that 1967 Ferrari P 3/4 0846 owned by me attended The Quail MotorSports Gathering in Monterey. The Editor of Cavallino removed that fact from the magazine. Recently 0846 attended The Amelia Island Concours and Keith Bluemel reported that it in fact had and P 3/4 0846 is owned by me. This time that fact was not edited out of Cavallino's article. You never know...

http://www.cavallino.com/2014/04/01/ferraris-at-the-amelia-island-concours-delegance/

 

Having had the chance to visit and witness in person all of the flawless work done on your cars when I was up there just about a year ago, it's clear to me that no certificate would or should make a difference. So you're preaching to the converted, here

Funny thing about magazine editors is that time has a way of changing their minds... That and a decrease in subscribers/advertisers. Not that that is the case with this particular magazine - I don't know - but I suspect that if classiche certificates mean little to you - as they should - then what Cavallino does or doesn't think about your cars probably means even less.

Sitting here thinking about my visit last year, and after seeing your recent photo of 0846 on Facebook I wish I could be at Lime Rock on sunday. Instead I'm stuck in an office in a sunny but very dry São Paulo...

Maybe some other time. Send my best to Sal!

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As the internet editor for the Cavallino website I can say that I have never heard of nor been told to exclude you or your car from any online content or online news.

Frankly I'm glad because I personally think it's gorgeous. One of my all time favorite cars.

 

Sal is The Man.

 

Thanks. We look forward to seeing both of you.

 

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Not identified but probably Spa so P3 #0844 in 1966 - you can see the gearbox in one shot.

https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/cz440nx9028

F1 312 at Silverstone in May 1966 - you can clearly see the mounting lugs the same as with the P3/412P; and that was the same block used with the 36-valve heads at Monza.

Paul M

 

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152629675547348&set=vb.558892347&type=2&theater
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One has to wonder how he knows what goes where and when. Maybe he just lines up all those parts in the correct order but they still have to be installed is the same order as they came out.No workshop manual. Is it written down somewhere or is it all between Sal's ears? tongascrew

 

Cool vid. Even red race cars get stuck behind left lane bandit SUVs. What is the camera car?

 

Brad in his 120M Jag.

 

Best in Class.
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Nice.
Sir Stirling seems to approve.

 

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