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The (one and only) '0846' Debate Thread

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by El Wayne, Nov 1, 2003.

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  1. Texas Forever

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    I know this much, Jim Glickenhaus would NEVER deliberately set out to build a replica. This whole, "Gee golly wiz, look what I found," is nothing more than a head fake.
     
  2. freestone

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    Then he got scammed apparently.
     
  3. Texas Forever

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    Karma is a female dog. If anybody got scammed here, I'm thinking it is most likely Mr. Glickenhaus scammed himself.
     
  4. PAUL500

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    Can you please provide a link where by John Hadjuk has commented directly in relation to these claims you have listed.........
     
  5. BigTex

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    I don't believe it exists, outside of the retelling by Jim himself, in the original source .pdf.

    I suppose one could contact him, on the phone.
     
  6. PAUL500

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    #9656 PAUL500, Dec 16, 2016
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    Vincent says "to this day" which implies John has made comment recently on the matter?

    It would also be good to know the actual book that was referenced by John, as no one else seems to have unearthed any period photos at all of the damage that was apparently shown in said publication.
     
  7. Vincent Vangool

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  8. PAUL500

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    Who is Wax? do you know him personally? or is that just hearsay?

    By quoting BigTex saying that John is available by telephone, have you called him up then to verify your claims? along with contacting Piper and Marcel in your quest regarding the Swiss matter?

    Vincent Van Gool is also a cartoon character I believe?

    Funnily enough another user on here who has recently made similar comments to your own appears to be quite a comic book fan I have found, small world is it not.

    Been doing some "digging" of my own!
     
  9. BMWairhead

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    #9659 BMWairhead, Dec 16, 2016
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    Wax has been JG's mouthpiece for quite some time...promising the same golden information/confirmation that has yet to appear...

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144815555-post8419.html
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144834382-post8709.html
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144830780-post8632.html
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144806940-post8400.html
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144806920-post8398.html
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144706450-post8095.html
     
  10. PAUL500

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    Ah yes, but who actually is Wax? as "Vincent" has said very recently, people can hide behind false profiles on here and post many things as a result without being linked to their true identity.
     
  11. PAUL500

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    You claimed that if someone didn't want to reveal their identity they could post info anonymously using another profile and then another user retorted by saying who would believe such info without knowing the actual source, keep up.

    It's a life ban for anyone caught having more than one profile on fchat I believe, do you have more than one fchat profile "Vincent"?

    I have offered to meet another user on here in person, they declined funnily enough, as you well know, had you not recently moved from Berkshire to Bratislava I would be more then happy to open up that offer to you as well.

    Anytime you are in Wales give me a shout, they do lovely fish and chips in Swansea apparently :)
     
  12. PAUL500

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    #9662 PAUL500, Dec 16, 2016
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  13. PAUL500

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    Easy enough for you to post up a recent utility bill etc with your name on it and everything else blanked out if you want to blow a hole in my theory........

    It can be from Berkshire, Bratislava or even Tahiti if you want
     
  14. PAUL500

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    #9664 PAUL500, Dec 16, 2016
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    The alter ego person I suspect you really are is also quite an "online" Mr Angry judging by all his tweets, restaurant reviews and facebook profile I have just been reading through.

    All will be revealed soon enough..........and No I don't think you are Jim or anyone associated with him, yours stems from a deep grudge with another member from a while ago.
     
  15. PAUL500

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    Here you go Mr anonymous.....

    My name is Paul, Paul1 and many others were taken up on fchat already, so I settled on a nice round 500.




     
  16. PAUL500

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    Keep the bluster and bravado up, and dodging providing anything at all, you just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper.
     
  17. PAUL500

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    I asked first so please oblige, I will then follow suit with the same exact ID info of my own, I would look a bit silly wont I if you did and then I didn't.

    I am happy to then issue a full apology to you if I am proven wrong.

    Cannot say fairer than that?
     
  18. BMWairhead

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    Paul, Vincent,

    Seriously, you two...just stop.
     
  19. PAUL500

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    #9669 PAUL500, Dec 16, 2016
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  20. PAUL500

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    All the hallmarks of a fake profile for all to see, not one shred of evidence to prove me wrong.
     
  21. peterp

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    + 1000000 x 10 ^ 50
     
  22. PAUL500

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    Omg "Vincent" appears to have deleted about 10 posts he made in the last hour or so!?

    Apologies to other members for the disjointed recent posts of mine as a result, as they probably make no sense with his replies in between now missing?

    Or has some other factor caused that?
     
  23. PAUL500

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    In order to make some sense of my recent posts for others:-

    I have long suspected that the "Vincent" profile was a front for another user to hide behind, they actually had no real interest in the 0846 story as such they just wanted to attack Steve/Muira SV in the debate over previous issues not associated with this thread.

    I had no idea who it was, or what the background of the issue was, that was until another member recently entered the debate, with an uncannily similar agenda and method of conveying it in print to that of Vincent.

    It turns out said member had similar run ins with Steve/Muira SV on an old thread on fchat, and this had escalated onto Jims facebook page when Steve was under his fchat ban and posting there instead.

    That member is unable to comment at present so i will refrain from saying any more until they can.

    The link for me was comic book/cartoon characters between both profiles.

    I suggested "Vincent" provide some evidence to support his name really was as claimed, he tried to say I was also hiding behind a fake profile name hence why I posted up my utility bill and suggested he did the same.

    Then suddenly all his posts associated with mine seemed to vanish from the last hour or so.
     
  24. Vincent Vangool

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    #9674 Vincent Vangool, Dec 16, 2016
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    I agree. Ridiculous and totally off topic, thus my reason for deleting the posts. No reason to clog the thread with that noise. He should do the same, as they in no way have anything to do with the subject at hand. It is all just spiteful fantasy.

    I am here solely to discuss the P4 series, whether by Piper or Ferrari and the history of each.

    I am not here for fantasies/conspiracy theories that have no basis in fact. Or even a stretch of reality.

    As he said, double profiles are a bannable offense, which just makes his accusation even more ludicrous. My guess is the mods have the technology to suss these occurrences out, and both I, and the member he is accusing of being my "second identity", have been around here for several years. I'm sure if there was any truth to this that the mods would have figured it out a long time ago. They are more than welcome to look into his unfounded rants. Nothing will come of it.

    If he truly believes this to be true, he should put his money where his mouth is and take it up with the moderators so he can quickly prove himself wrong. That is a very easy solution to his made up problem. Until then it is just noise. My guess is the fact that he is making things up out of thin air is too much reality for him though and he will just sit in his corner, doing nothing to validate the fantasies.

    Either prove it or quit throwing around ridiculous accusations/insults based in nothing but fantasy.

    As far as Paul500 goes, IMO I just can't be bothered to pay attention to or respond to him any longer.
     
  25. PAUL500

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    Yeh right.......busted my friend.
     

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