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The (one and only) '0846' Debate Thread

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by El Wayne, Nov 1, 2003.

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  1. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Ready to go in...
     
  2. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    OMG ! That engine is amazingly beautiful !
     
  3. zjpj

    zjpj F1 Veteran

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    varooooooom
     
  4. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Damn!!, what an engine.

    I was looking through one of my Ferrari books and studying (yet again) my favourite road (?) Ferrari the 250LM and noticed that she has that line on the engine cover too, like your P4, thus I thought I would try to find out which P series Ferrari had it first (ie a 250LM is really just a roofed 250P).

    Looking through the Barchetta site the 166 P Fantuzzi Spyder s/n 0834:
    http://www.barchetta.cc/All.Ferraris/images/1145/0032-51mm-50.jpg appear to be the earliest car that I can see this wonderful line.

    You also should talk to Barchetta about 0846 ... maybe :)

    Pete
     
  5. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Pete
    As Wayne can tell you a number people are talking about 0846 this week.
    Best
     
  6. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Note the curved inlet trumpets they are very rare.
     
  7. Boudewijn

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    Very, very impressive James.
     
  8. Sfumato

    Sfumato F1 World Champ

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    Love that...I don't believe in retro, only reusing the good and building better...Very nice details on the GT. My lifelong friend/Ford dealer is doubting he will get one for me. :( Ideas welcome :D

    I thought that shop looked familiar...archives has pic from something very similar, had a Z and 2000 roadster in it, yes?

    I still have an Amerispec coloring book :)

    Tutto Bene.
     
  9. donv

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    The whole thing is wonderful! Thanks much for sharing this with us.
     
  10. Burnout

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    I just made the "mistake" of making this thread one of the first I've read, after a few days away. I'm not even going to look at the rest of the board now, because it will all seem so lame compared to this!

    UNREAL!!! Keep up the great work Napolis!
     
  11. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
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    'Napolis's restoration of 0846, P4 PROVA MO-53, is, in all likelihood, the most often discussed specific Ferrari on Ferrarichat. To ease repetition and still inform for old and new time's sake alike, I've compiled a Chronological list from the former site - divided into Forums, with; dates, topic title, author.

    General Ferrari Discussion Archives:
    10-14-02: 330 P4 Question Amenasce
    10-15-02: What do people know about the "older" ferrari cars? William Speer
    10-23-02: 201ci 36v 24 plugs 4 coils... Napolis
    11-06-02: P4 Photos Napolis
    12-07-02: F50 daily driver Doug Meredith
    02-24-03: More P4 Napolis
    02-26-03: One way to get the unattainable Ron Thomas
    03-20-03: Details P4 Napolis
    04-18-03: Important Ferrari ARCHIVE discovered Jack Habits
    04-18-03: 2004 FCA Annual in San Francisco, Whos going ? William H
    04-27-03: Wayne P3 Nose inlet? Napolis
    05-22-03: 330 P3 s/n 0844 Wouterm
    05-27-03: Thinking... P4... Enzo Me Myself
    06-23-03: The new direction in restoration: Jeffrey Wolfe
    06-25-03: The new direction in restoration II Napolis
    07-23-03: Ferrari Depreciation Gary Green (Minuke)

    General Ferrari Discussion:
    10-14-03: How real is a vintage Ferrari ? [/i]William H[/i]

    Vintage (1969 and earlier):
    06-18-03: P4 Color ? Boudewijn
    06-23-03: P4 Nose Napolis
    06-30-03: Big Discovery Wayne P4 Doors Napolis
    07-03-03: P4 Dash Napolis
    07-17-03: P4 in Red Napolis
    08-08-03: P4 Rivets and glue... Napolis
    09-23-03: P4 Panel Final Paint Napolis

    Off Topic:
    09-01-03: Let's see a picture of your favorite car Mojo
     
  12. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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  13. jj2728

    jj2728 Karting

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    i've been following with great interest the threads regarding the p4s and the fantastic restoration going on....as an aside to this, my father spent time with the ferrari team at daytona in 67 as he was trying to market a new brand of driver glove....he's a photographer and i have in my collection many great shots in slide format that he took of the ferraris, the team, and the drivers....i also have framed and mounted on the wall in my studio autographs of bandini, amon, scarfiotti, parkes, rodriguez, and guichet...all are dated by each diver as well.....additionally i have a few of the sponsors stickers that the team handed to him. FRAM etc.,...it is great to see a piece of history come alive again.....
     
  14. snj5

    snj5 F1 World Champ

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    I have also been following with great interest, and appreciate Jim's generosity in posting this wonderful restoration and historical comments.
    Wax - terrific work for putting it all in one place!
    Many thanks to all.
     
  15. tonyh

    tonyh F1 World Champ
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    Wax,
    Great job in getting all this info together.
     
  16. Napolis

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    A few details which are going on today.
    Wiper mount.
     
  17. Napolis

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    Nose winglets and spare set.
     
  18. Napolis

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    Removable windshield frame. This is cool as it enables you to remove windshield quickly to reach the electrics.
     
  19. writerguy

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    Thanks WAX that was the best thing anyone has done around this place in a while....
     
  20. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    We made male/female molds and finished head light covers.
    Mounted rear glass.
    Fit doors and side glass.
    Finisned brake ducts.
    Built stand for my spare P3 Spyder body.
    Moving along.
     
  21. shmark

    shmark F1 Rookie

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    Wow, I love following this! Question for you. Are those original tires or reproductions? The sidewall has a shiny/old look that makes them seem like they are very old. I hope when you drive it, the tires are new! :)

    BTW, I hadn't noticed any new "P4" threads and only found this by accident. Will you post further updates here or in new threads?

    Thanks for sharing, great pictures!

    Mark
     
  22. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Eight Time F1 World Champ
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    Jim, pls excuse my ignorance, but what are the ducts running off the wheels all about? Is this a brake cooling system?

    Thx
     
  23. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    The ducts bring cooling air to the brakes.
    The tires are new. The treads are hand cut. (Fronts- Rears are old and only for building purposes)
    www.rogerkrausracing.com

    Best
     
  24. Boudewijn

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    Impressive series James.
    Best
    Boudewijn
     
  25. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    RE tires.
    By original I mean original size. These are AVONS. Originally 0846 raced on FIRESTONES which are no longer made. The wheels are also wider than were fitted in 67. They are 350 CanAM width. 11F,15R.
     

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