After daily driving a 2012 FF for 4 years, I sold it and soon regretted my decision. Subsequently bought a 2014 FF that I drive to work on most days. I’m sure the PS will be an awesome daily, too. Life is truly short and there’s nothing like a practical Ferrari in your everyday life imho. Image Unavailable, Please Login
I also think Multimatic is an independent company- though they do contract work for several companies. They developed this trick suspension. And I think they build the new Ford GT. Now GM owned Delphi, which invented the magnetic shocks that Ferrari debuted in the 599. The Multimatic system is NOT the Delphi magnetic shocks. The Delphi shocks are fantastic. But supposedly the Muiltimatic is even better. And it needs to be because cars are getting heavier. The Multimatic in my 296 is fantastic. Ferrari used GM’s 3 speed automatic in the 456 GTA. And I believe also in the 400i automatic. Does that ruin those cars? Its really about how Ferrari tunes these systems. Its kind of amusing to read about if only Ferrari used a NA V12 in their SUV- thats exactly what they did. The transaxle layout first appeared in road Ferraris with the 275 GTB. That was in 1965. They’ve been doing this a long time. What other 4 seaters have the transmission mounted aft of the seats for better weight distribution? The PS is 49%/51% weight distribution. Its difficult to discern the Urus weight distribution- but I found on line the Urus Performante weight distribution is 58/42…. I bet the others are similar. The question about profit margins is does the PS generate meaningfully more or less margins than another V12 model- lets consider an 812 GTS. My guess is its not far off in either direction. Yes Ferrari can sell every car they make- today. Thats due to good management. If they just increased 812 production by 50% then they might not be so fortunate. Turning one of their more difficult sells in the form of the 4 seater V12 into one of their hottest vehicles should tell us all we need to know. Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat
I think it is funny that some people assert that since Ferrari sells every car with demand left over, the buyers are idiots that will buy anything with the name. I wonder what the opinion would be if Ferrari saturated the market build cars that don’t ever get sold? Would non-buyers be considered idiots then? Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat.com mobile app
My wife and I were to see the PS in the flesh yesterday . She was excited for the PS as a possible replacement for her AMG SUV. She looked at the pictures online before we left for the showroom and her first comment was: “There’s no room in the back for the dogs!” Her second comment was: “You can get it for yourself to drive back and forth to work, but where are you going to park it? And look at those tires! The potholes will chew up those rims your first trip into manhattan. “ Needless to say we never made it. Unfortunately in my case the car makes no sense for what I want or need. If I want to drive with passengers I take the Maybach. If I want to drive with the dogs I take one of the SUVs. If I want to have a fun drive with my wife it is the GTS and if I want to be alone one of the Ducatis. It’s a shame really because the PS is a beautiful high performance vehicle that checks the “lust” box but the utility box has an asterisk next to it. The footnote reads- small performance sedan sized interior with beautiful finishes and marginal utility space for use in rain and light to medium snow conditions. Reads like an Audi or MB performance station wagon Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
I think thats right- its still a Ferrari. You have to make some compromises to drive it daily. If you have to go into urban areas with poor roads, or have dogs that aren’t super neat and tiny, then you likely need something thats more of a “daily beater” vehicle. The PS is more practical than an 812, but its not a replacement for your ______________ fill in the blank. And thats the whole point I think. Im going to see it again today. I last saw it back in Dec. I liked it a lot. Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat
I think that hits the nail on the head, Jerry. The definition of practical varies from person to person and locale to locale. For me, the FF or PS allows us to carry real luggage, make Costo runs, pick up guests at the airport, and drive in somewhat inclement weather. Rarely need to schlep big dogs or 7 people. Imho, the PS is more similar to a BMW X5 or any of the myriad of other tall sedans with a hatchback boot than a true SUV in practicality.
I agree/ the hatchback SUV which is quite popular in the US is exactly the demographic from a utility but not price perspective the PS will capture. Unfortunately for me I never did “get it” as my needs are different- I have 5 mastiffs- I need more utility. My dream SUV would be the G wagon 4x4-squared but I would need to recut an entire garage entrance to fit it. Of course I would have taken the MB Maybach G Wagon Landaulet— but only 2 made it to the USA . As far as a performance SUV with utility to spare I would consider V8 Wrangler, the new high performance Escalade or even the Cullinan and Urus to be in the running along with the aforementioned Audi and Benz performance wagons. If I ever want to haul all 1000 lbs plus of dog at once I’d have to with a pickup or van. If I had a PS I would decompensate the moment one of the monsters drooled on the cars finish or the back seat! Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Justification may be the worse enemy of fun car ownership. A FP promises to be an amazing drive. If you can own one, there is no better time. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
I’m sorry but this chap lost me at Porsche saloon (sedan) car. He also wants to present definitive opinion based on photos?! And the reference to GM is clear baiting. All manufacturers use sub-component manufacturers, nothing new there. JM2, I’d be sticking with your opinion. The PS looks vastly different from its competitors, looks like a Ferrari ‘FUV’ should, is lithe and voluptuous and will be an excellent product. For me that part is beyond debate in terms of 90 percentile opinion. The only debatable element is “should they have done it?” My answer to that is pretty simple. Why not? Seriously, what damage will they do to themselves or their reputation by selling a few thousand of these? In 10 or 20 years time the answer will be clear. None.
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I went to go see the PS over the weekend. My second time seeing it. I took my young adult children. They are more casual car lovers, as opposed to their dad, who could tell you the stats to everything [emoji4] They have been around nice cars for most of their lives. They have never seen it before. Their immediate reaction was “wow, thats beautiful!” They thought it “stylish, elegant, beautiful, classy, modern, very Ferrari”. Color is a very personal thing, but I thought the red PS I saw last year didn’t do the car any favors. I think the shape is very sculptural. And thus, I thought the car worked much better in Grigio Titanio. Photos and color choice can affect this sense of sculpture. I promise anyone who sees it in person won’t think this is anything else. It has tremendous volume and is even sexy. The sculptural sense is further helped by the lack of visible rear door handles. I also brought a jaded friend who told me he would never be interested in “that suv thing” and he immediately remarked how it was beautiful in person and “they did it again”. We were like little kids laughing and saying, ok how do we get one of these! (Isn’t that the whole point?) Interior, for whatever reason, the seats in this one felt more comfortable than the seats in the red car. The ones in the red car I tried back in December were harder and not as comfortable as expected. These were very comfortable. Especially the front seats. Rear seats can also be adjusted. Having direct access to the rear makes this a much more useable vehicle for the times you will take more than 1 other person with you. The most important thing- when you see it in person- there is no doubt- this is very much a Ferrari. And thats just seeing it, never mind firing up the V12 heart. They transformed their 4 seater from a vehicle with a very niche appeal to one that is widely desirable. They did it again. Bravo Ferrari! *OK- so Ill give a few criticisms. I wish they could allow a rev counter and CarPlay to occupy the same screen at the same time- that applies to all the new cars. And even though they offer CarPlay and AndroidAuto, I think there should be a built in Nav system - even if its just as a backup. Im not so sure we are ready for a car that has no built in Nav. Locating the SOS button on the central tunnel seems a strange decision- its behind a door- but why not put it up on the headliner where you really won’t ever go near it by accident? Im sure they have their reasons…. Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat
So, Porsche keeps the same basic design for decades. Ferrari has been all over the map for decades. Open headlights, clear covered headlights, flip up, fixed, running up the fender, running horizontal. Two taillights, four taillights, six taillights. Front engine, mid engine, front mid engine. V12, boxer 12, V12 again, transverse V8, Longitudinal V8, etc etc. Ferrari has always changed design. Front Identity, Rear Identity, Engine Placement/Orientation. I thing flat plane crank is most consistent thing. Oh and that USUALLY, the designs are amazing! My 2 cents. (And I am not a designer, nor a true Ferrista) Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
I am generally not a fan of green cars, but I think that is beautiful! Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
