LOL, how would you know? No one has seen it yet. Just being grumpy for grumpy sake? Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
I agree. No parts bin afterthoughts please. Hopefully they don’t decide to “glue in” that hideous ‘90s Nintendo game controller in the middle of the dash like they did in the Roma. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
It’s sad that no one really understands this car, most enthusiasts think of it as an inevitably “slow Ferrari” or a huge and heavy one. But what really is, is a nimble, agile and fast truck, so much, in fact that we will remember it by the nickname of Camione Veloce. Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando FerrariChat
This video shows an hypothetical Purosangue. I hope the Purosangue design will be in the antipodes of this hideous machine.
You think the shape will differ from the one in the pic MDEL posted in #2122? Doubt it when it is set to launch this year. Sent from my SM-G930F using FerrariChat.com mobile app
I have no idea and even if it doesn’t it’s too hidden and camouflaged for me to make a judgment on the design. Then again, that’s the point. Calling it an “absolutely hideous abomination of a car” when no one has seen it is odd. Actually it just seems like attention seeking. Plus, I disagree with those saying it's not a true Ferrari. Ferrari has always built big luxury cars to fund building race cars. How would an SUV be any different? It’s the epitome of Ferrari history (they just didn’t have the concept of an SUV back in the 50s and 60s). In fact, I’m surprised they didn’t do this sooner. It’s totally in line with their history and they’ll make a killing on these to fund faster supercars we all want to drive. Even though this type of car doesn’t appeal to me personally, I think it’s brilliant and long overdue. I’ll reserve judgement on looks / design for when I actually see it.
Let me predict the future … Car is introduced to the world: FerrariChat is in flames! “It’s hideous! Ferrari has lost it’s way! The company is dead! Sell your stock, the world as we know it is over! Fire Manzoni and the entire design team … bring back Pinin!” Car is shown in person: “Pictures don’t do it justice … it’s much better in person, I don’t hate it as much” Car is driven by journos: “it’s like no other SUV ever … it’s not just fast it is actually useful as a daily … much sportier than Urus, handles like a sports car, not bloated like Cullinan, not a poser like the Aston whatever it’s called, the touchscreen sucks but man what a drive!” Waiting lists grow … $500k is a bargain … Ferrari stock jumps to new highs … Ferrari ditches “normal sports cars” and only builds the special versions ie no 488 just Pista … Ferrari batteries and tech prove surprisingly robust and durable … all is good in the world. Oh and in the future you will need to buy the “Pista” just to get on the waiting list for the Purosangue! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Hahahaha, that pretty much sums it up! [emoji23] Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Now who dares to say that the Purosangue will not be a vehicle with off-road capabilities.. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Well, you know what, if your predictions are right it will be utterly sad. I have no illusions about the current clientele, but hey... The problem is not that this is the best SUV, the problem is that a 2 ton SUV has nothing to do with Ferrari !
If they don’t plan on selling way more Purosangues than they did FF/Lusso, I agree with you. But even those cars weren’t viewed as “real” Ferraris (which I completely disagree with btw). But weren’t Ferrari road cars originally intended to be grand tourers meant to fund the racing team? So, really, wouldn’t a SUV be truer to the original Ferrari road car ethos than, say, a Pista? And wouldn’t it be somewhat derelict of Ferrari, now a public company, to ignore the hottest market segment of all? So if the rumored $400k+ base price is true, and if they intend to, say, double the annual Lusso volume, and that allows them to produce more sporty road cars … how is that bad? Is there anyone out there that passed on a GT3 or GT4RS because they’d be too embarrassed to drive a car produced by a company whose best selling products are SUVs and (gasp) EVs? I get it that many purists don’t like it, but I seriously doubt it will negatively impact sales of sports cars. Nor will it in any way diminish the brand as many suggest … at least not to the general buying public. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Totally agree. People for some reason keep saying an SUV has nothing to do with Ferrari but if you look at their history, it has everything to do with Ferrari! Selling big fancy luxury cars to high paying clients so they can build better race cars has been their practice from the beginning. Maybe people are only looking at the 1980s onward (but even then the Testarossa was a big heavy luxury GT car - despite a mid engine and marketing that tried to tell everyone otherwise). Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Ferraris have always been about the engine. You pay for that and the SUV is free. Of course once the SUV is running on electric (where the motors are cheap off the shelf generics) we will actually have to pay for the SUV. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Ferrari will not call the car an SUV, it is just a 2+2, which has been in Ferrari's history from day one. They consider it a modern version of where the 2+2 has evolved into in todays word/market. You will see when they market the car, no where will they speak of SUV, they will market the car as just a modern GT car with 4 seats.
Why not compete with the Fiat 500 then, it sells well and women love it! Then we could take taxis to prevent professionals from buying Mercedes too! Seriously, Ferrari is a different brand today, that's a fact... As long as it has the badge on it, they can craft anything, they know they'll sell enough.
Not true. Sports cars didn’t come until later. History has been luxury GTs to fund racing. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
This is called Marketing speech, but *in fine* the car will be a true SUV: higher ground clearance than sedan, a big boot, space for 4 or 5 inside the cabin, daily drive ability…
The 166s was not. It was a racing sports car and competed. The 166 inter was the street version and it most definitely was a GT car. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
“SUV” is just a term that covers a broad range of types of vehicles. And with that term comes “baggage.” (Yes, linguistics pun intended! ) I think most people imagine a lumbering family junk heap stuffed with kids, car seats, dogs, and old crackers on the floor when thinking of an SUV. They think of all purpose transportation. Thus, the negative sentiment when attached to the prancing horse. Which is why Ferrari initially stated this is an “FUV.” At first I thought that was laughably bad marketing jargon, now I understand why they say this...and it is genius. They are recognizing the linguistic hang up and are redefining the word and their purpose. Has Ferrari “changed?” In many ways perhaps yes, but not as much as being suggested. I have read many books on the history of Ferrari as I find him and the Company fascinating. I think the “FUV” fits with the ethos of Ferrari, and I’m willing to bet Enzo would be building it now given the desires of his clients. In the 80’s and 90’s it was reasonable to assume SUVs might be a passing fad, like station wagons. After all, there weren’t many on the road and certainly not much of high quality. But now, 2022, we all have to recognize they are not only here to stay they are the preferred vehicle of the majority of shoppers, including very high end shoppers. Ferrari built 2+2s right from the beginning (once the company became established enough to manufacturer in reasonable volume...not 1947 for instance). Enzo’s mission was to build fast, beautiful and expensive cars to fund his racing efforts. Obviously he also built exotic sports cars that had a close relationship to GT racing efforts. The “FUV” is going to be a 4 seat car with two extra small doors. It will have only minimally more luggage space than an FF/Lusso. It will have a V12 offered. It will be beautiful, fast, luxurious, rare, and very expensive...all are Ferrari. Yes, it will be its first 4 door, and yes it will be riding slightly higher, hence the change part. But, it is more “same ‘ol” than “change” at Ferrari IMO.
We can disagree on what a GT is though I’m not sure why. It’s clearly defined. We can also disagree on what a tree is or an airplane but that doesn’t make you right. Fun fact, the 166 is Ferrari’s first grand tourer: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_166_Inter Notice the very first sentence. Also notice the body and chassis class (grand tourer). Also, just look at the car LOL. It’s clearly a GT. So yes, I suppose we can disagree on what a GT is. You can tell me a GT has six wheels, wings, and runs on rocket fuel if you want. However, we can’t disagree that the 166, Ferrari’s first road car, was in fact a GT. Just look on Ferrari’s own site. They flat out call it a GT: https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/past-model Also notice that it’s followed by the 195, the 212, the 342, and a long continuous line of nothing but “Gran Turismo” road cars. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
